Eldoria

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  • Eldoria
    Well, I was so engrossed in reading and writing feedback for a new author that I lost track of time.

    It's time to get back to write my fiction. Marry and her little daughter are waiting for me... :blob_melt:
    Tsuru
    Kakazu done dirty! : r/dankruto
    Eldoria
    "My goal is to create peace and justice." (Pain)

    "Are you kidding me?! You destroyed my village, killed my master, my sensei, hurt my friends." (Naruto)

    "Then tell me... what is your goal?"

    "I'LL KILL YOU... then create peace in the shinobi world."

    "How noble of you. What about MY family, MY friends, MY village? They were destroyed by Konoha! Is it fair that only you can preach about peace and justice?!"

    "..."
    Eldoria
    Wow... I just got a 1.5 rating on R*

    I wonder... does someone read a few pages before rating or read at least 1 volume?

    Someone's amazing if that person can judge fiction from just a few pages. Great! :blob_melt:
    Eldoria
    As an author, we see fiction as vivid images in our memory.

    As a reader, we can only perceive fiction through the narrative provided by the author.

    Writing fiction is like a communication effort, conveying the author's imagination to the reader through narrative.
    Omarfaruq
    Thanks for supporting me on that thread. :blob_salute:
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    Tsuru
    Tsuru
    I totally 100% agree with what you said.

    I dont understand where in history it went wrong, that "being kind" is a sin. Or "doing a good deed" is bad.
    To joke like the interne, "its bc we entered the wrong timeline after the death of Harambe"

    (which to be honest, is very coincidentally the year things turned to shit afterwards = 2016)
    Eldoria
    Eldoria
    We should be honest and fair. If every mistake is justified just because we're 'friends,' what's the difference between that and nepotism? Good friends are those who remind us when we're wrong... and who motivate us when we're hurt.
    Tsuru
    Tsuru
    :blob_salute:
    Anyway, lets end the topic on this happy note.
    Wish you a great day Eldoria and Omarfaruq.
    (y)
    Eldoria
    Oh... now I might know why these people keep putting feedback request threads outside the feedback section.

    Because feedback threads placed outside the feedback section will appear in the forum trending on the SH homepage.

    Conversely, feedback threads in the feedback section will not appear. It's a bug.
    Eldoria
    I agree with a fan... as a teenager, you tend to care about Naruto's idealism. But as an adult, you tend to understand Pain's realism.

    In the real world, the realities of geopolitics, nations, and war more closely follow Pain's logic, especially regarding the deterrent effect.
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    Tsuru
    Tsuru
    One thing that people pointed out (or at least i seen in CNs that are good at psychology)

    Naruto succeeded = because he is strong.
    Naruto = strength of a nuclear nuke x100.

    Countries were in peace during Hashirama era.
    He died ? Next day wars started.
    Tsuru
    Tsuru
    In short.

    Naruto is a naïve child, that think the world is sunny, that there is peace bc everyone became friends.
    Without knowing he succeeded only because everyone (especially villains and other Kages) are scared the shit out of him. AND/OR know they cant succeed at killing him and conquering Konoha. Or worse, pulverize their village with a RasenShuriken in 2s.


    Naruto is Pain.
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    Anonjohn20
    Listen, that entire franchise only exists so the mangaka/author can fangirl over Itachi, he admitted this himself.
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    Eldoria
    Write POV based on your character's voice. Let your character's soul guide you as you narrate what your character is doing 'right now' in their world.

    If readers say, "protagonist 'should' have done this or that..." Congratulations! You've created an authentic character that even readers found unsettling and irritating.
    Eldoria
    I stopped reading shoujo not because of the cliche tropes. It's just that... I hate it when the FMC gets taken by a random guy even though the fictional premise uses "family" labels: mother-daughter, father-daughter, brother-sister, and the like. I may be childish, but when reading fiction, I treat the FMC as my daughter. My feeling of my daughter being taken by someone else is too uneasy.
    Eldoria
    The relationship between author, fiction, and reader is like a symbolic contract. The author provides a narrative to the reader. Readers know the narrative is "fictional," but they are willing to be bound by the "lie" to achieve a sense of experience.

    Reading fiction means allowing the lie to "hypnotize" you. So, you can experience the "truth" of the sense of experience the author has crafted through narrative.
    Eldoria
    Narrating a child's first POV is one of the most difficult challenges in writting. Why?

    Because you need to "lower your intelligence" to the child's level. You can't use literary prose to narrate characters, worldbuilding, and plot.

    You need to lower your language to be simple and imaginative, appropriate to a child's psychological development. So, the POV feels authentically child's voice.
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    Makimaam
    Makimaam
    Also, it depends on the child’s age. Nowadays, if you ask a 5 or a 6yo why they could jump higher on the Moon than on Earth, some can tell you it’s because of the difference in gravity. Others might say they don’t know.
    Eldoria
    Eldoria
    Well, I already mentioned "...appropriate to a child's psychological development," meaning that narratives from a child's POV should be appropriate for their ages. Child developmental psychology theory explains how children's mental states are appropriate for their age. Authors need to understand children's mental states before writing about child's voice.
    Omarfaruq
    Omarfaruq
    I wouldn’t say it’s hard. you just need to be a little childish, like writing overly wholesome lines. I’m not saying it’s easy either, I’m just saying it’s not one of the hardest. Also, if your MC is a child, they must be exceptionally intelligent, or you won’t be able to justify why they’re the main character.
    Omarfaruq
    I want to write a tribute chapter inspired by your style—especially the single-mom theme. In this chapter, Avaris will be a single mother raising Arin and Lysa. My main character, Ilyas, will be shown as dead (this will be a non-canon chapter). I’m also thinking of mentioning your name in the author’s note.

    Is it okay if I do this?
    Eldoria
    Which is worse getting a low rating or getting no rating at all?
    Eldoria
    Pray for world peace...
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    Omarfaruq
    Omarfaruq
    Praying for world peace alone isn’t enough. Prayer without action won’t stop wars. People must be aware of political decisions, and we need leaders who resolve conflicts without violence. In short, real-world action has to accompany prayer.
    Nevafrost
    Nevafrost
    @Omarfaruq Absolutely agree. We don't need people who say, "I can die for my country." yes, you need to have the courage to die for your country. But you need to live the life of a martyr if you want to be one. Not many people can live for others and contribute.
    Omarfaruq
    Omarfaruq
    @Nevafrost hmm... I think my comments make sense. My previous comment was also agreed with by Meowjesty-sis and now Onee-sama.
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