Who are the Real Saviors of the World?

Eldoria

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Who are the Real Saviours of the World?

I read a lot of fiction about brave heroes who fought tooth and nail in wars to save human civilization. But I doubt that such heroes exist in the real world, considering that heroes themselves are often the subject of propaganda that plays a role in triggering wars.

On the other hand, I see a dark side in the real world: it turns out that the marginalized people who are not in the spotlight, parents (grandparents, mothers, fathers) who evacuate their children and grandchildren, prove to be able to save future generations. They may not be able to help win the war. But without their presence, the fate of a nation could be destroyed because there is no younger generation to save.

The question is:
  • Who are the real saviours of human civilisation: the heroes or the parents?
  • Why do heroes get more attention, even in fiction, than the parents in war tragedies?
 
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Parents don't deserve any more attention than they already get. I sure don't see any saviors. Then again, conflict itself is inherently engaging; why would you want a story about people who are just avoiding it all the time? Sounds boring as hell.

Ambition, fiery rage and hate, pristine bloodshed and glory, ah, those are the things we truly seek!

Creation and destruction in equal measure. All in service of some higher ideal. Those who just maintain the status quo and live their lives dont produce meaningful stories.
 

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Fun fact, saving the world from destruction is something different then saving humanity from destruction.

Heroism is intrinsically linked with politics and values, they are often political tools to justify rule, in ancient time heroes were special because they did great things, see king arthur as example, in modern times of capitalism heroism is based upon the great man theory, see marvel as an example, were there is a person intrinsically better due to natural virtue.

Not to mention the Propaganda heroes.

Normal people are just systemic white noise, for very summarized reasons that I have made above was it always incentivized to make someone stand out, but we often know only the most important parts of history, not even mentioning chronocentrism or other biases.
 

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The most modern hero i can think of is Winston Churchill stood against the German empire and encouraged others to do so aswell
 

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Who are the Real Saviors of the World?

I read a lot of fiction about brave heroes who fought tooth and nail in wars to save human civilization. But I doubt that such heroes exist in the real world, considering that heroes themselves are often the subject of propaganda that plays a role in triggering wars.

On the other hand, I see a dark side in the real world: it turns out that the marginalized people who are not in the spotlight: parents (grandparents, mothers, fathers) who evacuate their children and grandchildren prove to be able to save future generations. They may not be able to help win the war. But without their presence, the fate of a nation could be destroyed because there is no younger generation to save.

The question is:
  • Who are the real saviors of human civilization: the heroes or the parents?
  • Why do heroes get more attention, even in fiction, than the parents in war tragedies?
Fiction is a escapist hobby or behaviour. So people often prefer to read something that is unreal and keeps them engaging while still being grounded to reality.

Fiction is like a friend group of woman portrayed in media, they don't exist.
 

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So very few stories have the true savior of the world ever considered, God.
It's always the achievement of the heroes, a very man-centric type of story.
After noticing this I realize why so many stories just feel the same.
 

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Tis like in an office setting...

You did all the lifting (hero), and someone else gets the credit (parents). How would you react to that?

Okay, okay. Let's say your parents did a good job raising you well; they are also of your blood. But like we say in education, 'nature' is just half of the 'learning equation.' Other factors (nurture) like environment, experiences, and values also come into play to make a person 'whole.' If I may dare say, parents only make up, at most, 75% of the totality of a person, with the rest going to the latter reasons I stated.

So, though parents may have played a significant role in a hero's values and character, the difficult job of fixing stuff still goes to the latter, hence they deserve more credit.
 

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Hero or not, there are obviously no hero, but there are heroes.

Arrogant people usually forget human nature. From birth, humans can't survive on their own. What food do you eat? How many people are involved in producing it? How about the technology you’re using now? The medicine? All of these are products of human knowledge, with many people involved from past generations.

They are undoubtedly hidden heroes we don’t know about.
 

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Whoever saves one life saves the world entire :blob_hmm:

I think a story about a parent(s) trying to shield their children from the horrors of war or whatever could be interesting, a nice way to step back from the people doing the actual fighting.

I'm reminded of a video essay I watched that (if I remember correctly) basically talked about how a story can only be truly anti-war if it's meaningless, bereft of glory or the triumph of good over evil in some way. That way it doesn't fuel into the mythos of the war hero because if there's one thing men are inspired by and are gung-ho about doing, it's dying a heroic death on the battlefield. Pulling away from this narrative by focusing on the heroism of non-combatants and civilians, for whom death has no glory, could then make for a pretty interesting anti-war message. After all, no one ever thinks to themselves "I wanna be a civilian in a warzone when I grow up and die under rubble" :blob_hmm:
 

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Whoever saves one life saves the world entire :blob_hmm:

I think a story about a parent(s) trying to shield their children from the horrors of war or whatever could be interesting, a nice way to step back from the people doing the actual fighting.
Then you should read this (not a promotion but an affirmation):

 
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