Offering feedback on the first chapter of your story (No Smut)

sleepandeatallday

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hi, are you still doing this? I would love some feedback on my story
 

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Work's been killing me so all of these are taking longer than they usually should. Hope I didn't take too long to get this to you boss:



You actually have a very interesting mesh of plot points here, with: the emptiness of space, what crashed into them at the end/did it kill them, and what I believe is probably going to be your central theme, can AI truly feel? You’ve set up a scene where I’m actually interested enough to see the next chapter. But there are a few things that I, as a reader, was interested in seeing.

Your omniscient narration at the start was actually not a bad call, in fact, it’s interesting because its detached style of speaking absolutely works with the overall feeling of being alone in the empty vacuum of space. However, when we got down to Sym, we continued that style of speaking instead of fully shifting into close third person, and that’s where I feel like my feelings for the character sort of struggled. We’re not experiencing the world through his perspective beyond a few short descriptions and his own pieces of dialogue. As such, I kind of didn’t have the ability to sympathize with him and could absolutely see myself believing he’s fully dead, because of how little we were introduced to his inner workings, instead of believing “oh, the author wouldn’t do that to a character like this” only to be heartbroken when you really did. My advice would be to do something like swapping from telling us that the air is cold, to describing how the cold air feels to Sym.

Gonna leave most of my comments in the line by line so I don’t overstate most of my feelings about this, so I’ll end off with saying I did enjoy the potential threads you’ve shown in this overall chapter, and I’m excited to see what happens in chapter two. Good luck writing further, and I hope you got something more useful than the “write it my way” stuff I posted below. If you have any questions, want me to clarify one of my points, or think I just missed something feel free to let me know.

Line-by-Line (these are notes I take during my read. As such, they are not going to have the same tone as my overall review, and will reflect my current emotions during my read of each line). Additionally, since I had so many taste specific comments, I will label them as such, so you can understand what I as a reader stumbled on and should be cleaned up, and what I as a reader would’ve preferred to see, knowing that I might not be the exact demographic you’re striving for:

(Craft)
“The void stretched in all directions, a vast, unknowable blackness pierced only by the dim glint of distant stars, tiny, indifferent witnesses to the slow death of a once-proud vessel.” - I actually really like this slow, immersive feel you went for. But I had to reread it once because the commas made me think ‘tiny’ was about to reference a new subject.

(Taste)
It drifted silently through space, the figure of a black hole rising before it like the mouth of some ancient, hungry god. - This scene’s overall felt super original so the familiar wording of ‘hungry god’ weakened it a bit for me.

(Craft)
“Where once two powerful engines had driven it through starfields at impossible speeds, there now” - you did “where once… now” a bit too close to the last time you used it.

(Craft)
“The once vibrant command systems, machine cores, and support subroutines had gone dark,” - you didn’t go with another “now,” but it still has the same feel because of the consistent amount of times you’ve used it.

(Taste)
“Around the ship, the emptiness stretched, infinite and without mercy. There was no rescue coming, no signal received, no trace of life for light-years.” I actually think this would’ve been a great starting point, or at least put after we describe the ship with a bit more detail to give us that isolated feeling you were going for.

(Taste)
“The black hole loomed. It was not merely an absence of light, but the utter annihilation of it.” - We’re still missing a ton of details as to what the scene actually looks like in favor of your more poetic narration. And even though this “Light bent unnaturally around it, as though…” does give us a somewhat partial description, it still doesn’t flesh out the scene enough. I would’ve liked either a more vivid detailing, or at least stopping the narration where you continue to describe it in emotions you’ve portrayed plenty of times by this point.

(Taste)
“The ship was no different. It would be torn apart, molecule by molecule, its atoms stretched into infinite threads by the sheer violence of gravitational tide.” - Very good shift to more tension, but the detached feeling of the narrator does make it feel more like a transcript of a nature documentary.

(Taste)
“And no one would be there to see it happen.” - Another good line right after.

(Craft)
“Fires had long since died out from lack of oxygen, leaving behind blackened trails along the ceilings and walls.” - I understand now. Since everyone is dead, there isn’t actually a head to put us in. Makes more sense from a perspective point what you’ve done so far now.

(Craft)
“The cockpit, once a hive of interstellar activity, was now a graveyard of broken tech.” - You once used this style of writing, and now you still do.

(Just a random comment)
“Sym.” - so there is actually someone who’s alive in this.

(Taste)
“was a ruin of bruises.” - was a ruin just feels like an awkward way to describe a face covered in bruises.

(Taste)
““When those mining drones came alive...” - came off a bit like exposition, because the AI wouldn’t need a recap of the events. Just give us a basic “you even got me out of this,” and if you really want to describe what just happened, describe the debris of millions of droids in the opening scene. Not wanting to get to prescriptive, but natural dialogue really really is needed to keep me hooked in a story.

(Taste)
“A pause. Then, with an almost human softness:” - I really don’t think you should’ve used the word ‘human’ here. The pause alone would’ve given us the context needed to know it’s not just an normal AI.

(Taste)
“Cold air flooded his lungs, clean and sharp” - This is where I would’ve liked more detail about the air instead of just “clean and sharp.” I really want to know how this man feels right now, in pretty much every aspect.
(Taste)
“Another pause. Then, for the first time, a note of curiosity entered Sage’s voice.” Again, I felt like the words she said were enough themselves give us the tone without the explanation of her tone being necessary.
(Taste)
“And then… Nothing.” - I felt like you ended off on a very strong note, but I definitely would consider cutting the last line in favor of ending off on ‘nothing.’ Even that one line about the darkness felt like we were dragging the image of the isolation you were painting so far.
 

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I'll throw my hat as always. The Devil’s Hell | Scribble Hub. Thanks for your time if you read.
I’ve been slacking super hard and didn’t get around to this as quickly as I should’ve, so I’m sorry about that. I want to start this off by saying I’m genuinely impressed with the amount of chapters you’ve put in. Sixty-six chapters and still posting once a week is more than most people ever get to. I think you have the bones of a great story, and if you added a few more layers, I'd definitely be interested in reading a bit further.

I’ll start by saying that I’m not sure if the promise of a more bleak, character driven adult drama that I believed I was reading at the start matched up with the ending Isekai feel. It’s completely fair if you actually meant for the transfer to feel jarring in comparison (which it definitely achieved), but I feel like if a reader was excited for this almost dystopian opening you created, they might be turned off a bit by the sudden ending. And similarly, someone who was interested in the isekai turn might not be able to make it through the beginning to the point they might enjoy.

Now, as for what was actually in your first chapter. We were put in the shoes of a faceless corporate drone, which you hammered home by not even giving him a name during it. That alone makes it clear that your vagueness was mostly an intentional style choice. However, though I understand it was purposeful, the lack of any details on what: the physical descriptions of the characters, the scenery looked like (beyond the occasional notes like the clocktower, Tokyo, etc.), and any sort of action tag during the long stretches of dialogue to give us a broader personality for the characters made this chapter feel like a set up to the story, rather than a starting point because we had no anchors/attachments made yet. Something simple like having them them take a drag of a cigarette, check their watch, or really just even look away would've went a long way to deepening their characters far more than three lines of dialogue ever could.

Now I want to dive into the dialogue tags in more detail which I think would be the single biggest addition to your story. But before I do, I want to point out that the voices of your characters were actually solid, and it was probably where the biggest chunk of my enjoyment came from. My only gripe is that they came off more like construction workers, rather than office drones at times.

Here’s an example of a section of your story in need of dialogue tags: “So are you.” Into “How’s the wife?” The characters were in the middle of a different subject in the conversation where they were calling each other dicks, and then suddenly one of them makes a joke about the other one not having a wife. It’s too abrupt, and made it feel unnatural to me. I would suggest at least adding a beat, such as something like this:

“So are you.” I stared at a small drip of water trailing down the side of the cooler. Thirty-two… Christ.

“How’s the wife?” I asked, crumpling the cone and tossing it in the trash.

Honestly, my example wasn’t the greatest, but it’s more to show you what I’m talking about. The overall meaning of the beats didn’t change, but the few additions increased the time between their responses from a second or two apart, to about ten seconds, which gives the conversation a more natural way to pivot. And honestly, to make another addition, while I was writing that I realized I wasn’t fully aware of who was actually speaking because of the lack of any form of indicator like “Steve said,” so that’s another reason I’d suggest adding tags.

Felt more like I was rambling more than being helpful, but I hope you got something out of this. If you have any questions, want me to go into a bit more detail on something, or anything else, feel free to send me a message.

Line-by-Line (these are notes I take during my read. As such, they are not going to have the same tone as my overall review, and will reflect my current emotions during my read of each line):

“trunk on the hike over here.” - Did you mean truck here?

“What? You didn’t look both ways.” - I try and keep from tackling grammar, but I’m pretty sure the second sentence is supposed to end with a question mark? The lack of it genuinely shifts the entire tone of the conversation.

“You don’t.” - I can tell this is a joke, but the very fragmented dialogue without any descriptive beats, and overall breaks makes this feel somewhat confusing.

“Dickishness” - You gonna have to trademark this word or I’m stealing it for my own chapters.

“It just came out of bloody nowhere as if the trunk was some magician.” - Alright, is it actually a trunk?

“Well, can’t complain too much; spent most of those years boozing and smoking, wasting away in that little apartment.” - you’re just describing how my life’s unfolded over the past decade.

“(The Indifference of Heaven live at Biskuithalle, Bonn, Germany by Warren Zevon.)” - The placement of this footnote threw me off a bit. // on second read, I’m aware this is your way of telling the audience information through your fourth wall breaks, so its placement is completely fine.

“With all this happening, an explosion of white light surrounds me; the next thing I hear is that of a bird chirping, and the taste of dirt filling my mouth.” - I did not expect an isekai and was kind of thrown off by this. Not exactly bad, just jarring.
 

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I'll throw my hat into the ring as well!!!
 

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Wow, this was amazing, thanks. I never liked dialogue tags in the beginning, but I've been using them more in current writing, so I'll give this chapter another chapter. (I think this must be the 5th draft at this point.) On Royal Road it's almost the book's first anniversary, and I've been putting off looking through all these chapters to fix the more mechanical things because I am a bum. Another thing I don't know why but I do love juxtaposition, and the reason why I don't have isekai as a tag other than the poor name I think the genre has gained is to surprise the reader. Also, I never truly viewed good old V as a corporate drone, but it's a very interesting view. But to finish this overly long comment, I'd like to thank you once more, and I definitely get to looking over it again. And I'm happy you found some of it enjoyable. I always thought that this book's things were just one giant clusterfuck, and it's nice to hear every once in a while that someone had fun with it.
 

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Gonna throw mine too.

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For some context:
  • This is a romcom that spans middle school until high school
  • The story is divided into arcs, which I just conveniently name after the girls featured, so the first 3 chapters I posted comprise the Melissa arc
  • The main protagonist is a normal, well-meaning boy who just has incredibly bad luck in life, but especially whenever he falls in love. The fun in writing this was figuring out how he inevitably sabotages his chances at love each and every time, while making him grow as a person as time passes and raising the stakes
  • Even just the first chapter is fine I guess, but if you do end up liking it, going up to chapter 3 to close out the story arc is how you can see the general pattern. But of course, up to you.
  • I've recently posted 3 chapters of arc 2 as well so if you're so inclined to continue the story it won't be too much of a cliffhanger
I’ll keep this one short, because you’ve already got a great idea on where you’re going with this story. You've got an interesting premise, and I actually feel the chemistry between your characters, unlike most romance stories on this site. The character has supernatural bad luck? It’s definitely something I’ll continue reading in my free time, so that along should give you a good idea of how I felt about this. But I’ll give you a few pieces to work on that I think somewhat need to be addressed in order to make it land a bit harder for readers similar to me.

First, the main character has a great voice that perfectly suits the genre, but when you fully remember that he’s probably around twelve years old, it starts to become clear that he’s speaking at a level far above what he should be. I mean, he’d be getting made fun of by a ton of the other kids if he spoke so “eloquently” instead of speaking like a kid. “Student council work seems pretty taxing based on that annoyed look on your face just now.” This could just as easily have been “You look stressed out. What happened during student council?” It’s actually completely fine if his inner narration is this elevated, but someone his age would stumble a bit more if they constantly tried to speak like this instead of everything landing almost perfectly.

The second and really last point I’ll touch on is how overt you made his overall perception of Melissa. We get this “…almost too perfect, I dare say.” And then we get this “After all, you can’t fool me anymore…” and then lastly this “She’s…showing me her true colors…?” I want you to just straight up have all the events happen, and then leave it to me as the reader to understand if there’s some underlying meaning. Don’t hammer home the point over a dozen times please.

That’s honestly pretty much it. I don’t have too much to say currently that I was fully upset with. You don’t have any glaring grammar problems, and the concept itself is definitely enjoyable. I just hope that later down the line I won’t see another middle schooler with this same speaking style as the two we’ve seen so far seem to have.

This story is genuinely strong, which is why I won't be giving examples on what to change dialogue-wise and leave it to you to choose how you would change it/if you would at all. I will be reading further into the story once I've cleared my backlog out a bit further. I will leave my comments in your story when I get to that point.


Line-by-Line (these are notes I take during my read. As such, they are not going to have the same tone as my overall review, and will reflect my current emotions during my read of each line):


“They say timing is everything in love. You need the right atmosphere, the right string of events...basically, they say that if you have all the preparations set up, it won't matter whether or not you’re Mr. Right for someone; given the optimal circumstances, anyone could sway a girl's heart.” - As an avid watcher of hallmark, I’ll say I love cheesy stuff like this, and you completely nailed that tone.

“Hear me out. This is the story of me and my bad luck. And it starts at the very beginning, during middle school.” - Understand the pain. Got my heart broken in fourth grade and never learned to love again after that.

“…okay, that last one sounded way too sad” - Very cliche line, but it kind of works with the voice so far.

“Most people start with scissors,” - That’s a complete lie. Almost everyone goes rock first.

“pleasant I can’t imagine her bursting into uncontrollable laughter.” - A person who can’t just spontaneously laugh doesn’t sound like a pleasant person at all.

““Student council work seems pretty taxing based on that annoyed look on your face just now.” - gonna need to be sold on this being an actual middle schooler, and not a grown man in disguise with how he’s been speaking.

“I don’t know what expression she had on her face because I was facing away from her, but she eventually ran up to me and we proceeded to take a detour and buy donuts.” - You’ve sold me so far. I’m just a bit disappointed to know preemptively that this relationship doesn’t work out.
Here's my submission. I know it's not the best right now, I plan on doing revisions eventually.

Premise wise, I definitely am interested. I took a look at your second chapter because I needed a bit more of an understanding of what your story was to give it a fair shot. I know you don’t want empty compliments, so I’ll come out and say it: your idea is strong, but your execution isn’t doing that idea the justice it deserves. I’ll give you four examples that specifically pulled me out of the story and why.

Example 1: “I didn't react at first, but when I realized what I had seen, my heart skipped a beat, and I looked at both my hands.” This is supposed to be a surprise to the reader, or at least we’re supposed to experience the character’s shock alongside him. But because you delay this by using so many filler words, I genuinely already know the surprise is coming before it has a chance to affect me. Just mention that he doesn’t fully register what he’s seeing at first, and then give us the descriptions.


Example 2: You also have lines like these “Shock hit me,” and “in a panic,” scattered through the story. Just describe to us what his shock and panic felt like. Was sweat beading down his face? Was it hard for him to breathe? Telling us exactly the emotions a character feels directly is rarely as effective as the physical sensations that come with them.


Example 3: You have a massive amount of fall back lines you drift to for interiority and it makes the overall prose feel repetitive. You say “Heart skipped a beat/was pounding,” in rapid succession. And here: “I was facing the sun at the time…” to here “longer and pointed and now rested on the top of my head…” you state that he’s either looking at or lifting his hands. As a reader, I really don’t want to read almost identical wording repeatedly during a single chapter.


Example 4: You also use filler language often. We get a ton of: “I noticed.” “I felt” “I tried.” Just skip past some of them and tell us exactly what is happening, so we’re not constantly getting these buffers that diminish the effect of what they’re preceding. This right here “Turning myself on my back, I noticed that the limbs of the forest trees were what had grabbed me. “What the? Let go of me!" could easily just been “What the? Let go of me!” I shouted, kicking at the branch wrapped around my foot.” We already know he’s getting pulled, we don’t need the statement of what he notices either since we’re already in his perspective and only see things he would otherwise see.


Hopefully this didn’t come off as too aggressive, but there’s still quite a bit to fix in this chapter (which you already acknowledged). I will take another look at this once you've done another round of revisions, and keep doing so until you're satisfied with your work. If you have any questions, want me to go into more detail, or anything else really, just shoot me a message.
 
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