How practical is a female fantasy armor?

[Lysander_Works]

Sometimes the best armor is no armor/clothing at all. In the right circumstances, it can be "super effective," x5.0 Critical Hit Ratio.

 

[owotrucked]

“sexy” armor looks stupid

to be fair, horniness isn't smart

but you could say that creators putting out bikini armor to get +100% audience is big brain tho

 

[Fallion]

Back at you. You talk about how Conan is ok since "which makes perfect sense because he's not rich and in a hot climate." But for some reason we can't do the same for female characters? Really?

How about you actually read the comments you respond to?
NOTHING in my comments says a female character can't run around in a bikini. The problem is in the bikini ARMOUR part. You know, The part that actually makes it expensive and impractical?
The male equivalent would be if Conan ONLY wore a codpiece. Underwear is not a codpiece just like a bikini isn't a bikini armour.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

How about you actually read the comments you respond to?
NOTHING in my comments says a female character can't run around in a bikini. The problem is in the bikini ARMOUR part. You know, The part that actually makes it expensive and impractical?
The male equivalent would be if Conan ONLY wore a codpiece. Underwear is not a codpiece just like a bikini isn't a bikini armour.

In other word you want to say that bikini armor is a bikini made of steel, iron, or any other metal. Bikini armor can't be made out of leather, fur. Can't be scale or lamellar either.

 

[Bartun]

Armor is armor. ?

 

[Cipiteca396]

Funnily enough the supposedly 'practical' metal plate armor that everyone loves throwing around is heavily stylized based on the fashion of the time.

For example, the tight little hourglass shape of that Joan picture earlier in the thread is a common trait of male designed plate armor purely meant to make a figure look more masculine (by medieval standards, not ours). Tomboy Joan is looking great.

So yes, it's both possible and expected for armor to be stylized. The modern idea of plate armor is an illusion created by a sort of nostalgic bias. When armor stopped being useful, the development of fashionable armor stagnated outside fantasy.

That's not to say that there aren't impractical fantasy (or even real life) armors, obviously. It's just unwise to assume something is impractical on principle.

 

[Deleted member 1244]

Side note:
There is a collection of short stories called,
'women in practical armor'
Read it ages ago, I didn't like all the stories, but a few was pretty good.

 

[Dark_Phoenix_Zaetyk]

Sometimes the best armor is no armor/clothing at all. In the right circumstances, it can be "super effective," x5.0 Critical Hit Ratio.

So it like superman wearing armor to confuse people...
L

Side note:
There is a collection of short stories called,
'women in practical armor'
Read it ages ago, I didn't like all the stories, but a few was pretty good.

Let me look them up lol

Funnily enough the supposedly 'practical' metal plate armor that everyone loves throwing around is heavily stylized based on the fashion of the time.

For example, the tight little hourglass shape of that Joan picture earlier in the thread is a common trait of male designed plate armor purely meant to make a figure look more masculine (by medieval standards, not ours). Tomboy Joan is looking great.

So yes, it's both possible and expected for armor to be stylized. The modern idea of plate armor is an illusion created by a sort of nostalgic bias. When armor stopped being useful, the development of fashionable armor stagnated outside fantasy.

That's not to say that there aren't impractical fantasy (or even real life) armors, obviously. It's just unwise to assume something is impractical on principle.

Well yeah but now people can argue without going anyway especially when some say skimpy armor can have stats

to be fair, horniness isn't smart

but you could say that creators putting out bikini armor to get +100% audience is big brain tho

Well that's fair especially when the skimpy armors in games are there for hot-blooded males to eye candy

 

[Piisfun]

This should be a wonderful example of survivorship bias or was it failure bias?

Strictly speaking, non-response bias.

The ones that weren't included were the ones that mattered.

 

[Deleted member 76176]

As a concept bikini armor, weird impractical weapons, and stupid armor works. It can work in games, I'm too lazy to name a lot, so I will simply name Bloodborne. The weapons there are impractical in our world, but they all have proper explanation on why this or that works. Obviously some stuff is omitted, but if you are going to say it is important, and it can't work without a full-blown report on how they work, and what kind of steel they use, I don't think we can have a conversation.

If we talk about how majority of people implement it, it is usually impractical, and does not have any explanation. Yes. I am not defending this, nor do I care about it. I only care about concept of impractical armors and weapons. I don't even care about bikini armor, it's simply part of the impractical armors category, so I kinda care about the concept by extension.

Look, I never said impractical things couldn't work. I never said to discard impractical armor because it doesn't make sense in real life. That simply wasn't my point. I just don't think authors get to write anything because it is fantasy and without any reasonable justification. I'm upset about the argument that essentially says, "Hey, loook, dragon in the sky. Who cares if I've got an impractical design and I never bother to give an explanation why it is shaped terribly the way it is?"

High fantasy is a shard of reality; we take existing concepts from real life and so on in order to make sense of them. These concepts aren't inherently fantastical unless established otherwise. A cape isn't magical unless you write it to be. We don't think hairpins are extraordinary if you don't establish them beforehand. So when you have an impractical design—magical, however—it doesn't change its function automatically. An ordinary cape magically enhanced can't be 200 feet long for no reason, just because 'magic' or 'looks cool.' A magic sword can't just be impractically designed because magic swords don't exist in real life.

They can be reasonably explained, but for them to exist without any justifications isn't a quirk of fantasy—that's just bad writing.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

My opinion is that “sexy” armor looks stupid and that full plate armor is cool and makes it look better.

Your opinion is wrong.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

Your opinion is wrong.

No u.

 

[CrimsonGenius]

My mc wears a karate gi. The love interest wears a karate gi. The best friend wears one too.

 

[Fallion]

In other word you want to say that bikini armor is a bikini made of steel, iron, or any other metal. Bikini armor can't be made out of leather, fur. Can't be scale or lamellar either.

Where the hell do you get this stupid crap from? Just stop trying to make me sound stupid by putting words in my mouth that I never said nor implied.
The only of those things you just mentioned that isn't considerably more expensive than regular clothes would be fur and funnily enough that would also be ridiculously hot. Leather ARMOUR is hardened leather, not the same as leather used for straps and clothes which is soft and while generally tougher to cut than hemp or cotton it does little to prevent a blade from biting into it or stopping blunt force.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Slight sad that a quick scroll of this thread only yielded 2 bikini armor pic.

 

[Dark_Phoenix_Zaetyk]

Slight sad that a quick scroll of this thread only yielded 2 bikini armor pic.

So your fishing for those pics eeh

 

[NotaNuffian]

So your fishing for those pics eeh

Ya.

Not that I would save them into my phone.

But rather just a quick gander and wank

 

[RepresentingWrath]

A magic sword can't just be impractically designed because magic swords don't exist in real life.

It can.

They can be reasonably explained, but for them to exist without any justifications isn't a quirk of fantasy—that's just bad writing.

No.

Where the hell do you get this stupid crap from?

I was looking at Conan portrayed by Arnold. He wears a codpiece made out of hardened leather, fur, and little bit of metal. People are okay with it. The only ones who don't like it are people from echo chambers known as subreddits.

 

[Fallion]

I was looking at Conan portrayed by Arnold. He wears a codpiece made out of hardened leather, fur, and little bit of metal. People are okay with it. The only ones who don't like it are people from echo chambers known as subreddits.

That is quite literally the only one out of a dozen different versions where he wears a codpiece instead of w/e you call the loose leather flapping around in the wind. Which doesn't seem very practical either.
This post was asking about practical fantasy armour and NOT about sexism. Only wearing a codpiece isn't practical or useful unless that is quite literally the only thing you have to cover yourself with, which seems unlikely.
The reason codpieces was even brought up was because I quite literally said it was the male equivalent of bikini armour, aka yes I do have a problem with it in a practical sense. If we're talking movies I couldn't care less about them wearing bikini armour and codpieces, any movie where they wear either of those shouldn't be seen with the expectation of realism or practicality.

When you say people are okay with it, what exactly do you expect of people? To go out protesting about something in a single movie from the 80's? Yes, I'd prefer if he wore the same as the older comics depicted instead of a codpiece.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

This post was asking about practical fantasy armour and NOT about sexism.

Oh yes, I am a well-known sexist. But just in case, fantasy armour, right? FANTASY armour? We still talk about fantasy? I believe those bikini armor, albeit not the one made of solid steel, can be made practical via ecnchantments. That's what magic is for. Case closed. Are they practical? Yes, cause they have magical shield protection, or speed enchantment.