4th Wall Breaks, how do you guys go about it?

[jesusnarv]

Title is pretty self explanatory. The way I do it is italicized and **.

Example. *Hey, you mofos can read this right?*

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Jack Diamond frequently makes asides to the reader; it's kind of his thing (pretty much borrowed from how Phillip Marllow narrates "The Big Sleep" (by design).
Kelly Pierce is talking to the reader throughout - not even needing to make asides; this is their memoir, essentially.
Otherwise, unless I'm writing comedy or game material, I almost never break the fourth wall.

 

[LiteraryWho]

I wouldn't think there's ever a time when you should need a special designation for a 4th wall break. If it's part of the story, then the break should be normal dialogue or narration, and if its not part of the story, then you shouldn't be doing fourth wall breaks. If you, as an author, want to address your audience, I suggest an author's note. For a break as part of the story, from a character within it, "you" in narration will suffice.

For example:
"Now here's a story you probably haven't heard before, it's about the time the author of this story and I went on an adventure in, well, you wouldn't believe it, but actual Narnia itself. Isn't that nuts..." etc. etc.

 

[MFontana]

Title is pretty self explanatory. The way I do it is italicized and **.

Example. *Hey, you mofos can read this right?*

Cleverly disguised in the Preludes and Interludes primarily.
Or the less cleverly disguised cameos of the best 4th-wall breaker ever. Deadpool.
In the Preludes and Interludes, the reader is reading a journal or letter typically, written by one of the characters, in the first person.
In effect, they are speaking directly to the reader, recounting their personal thoughts and feelings.

 

[TheDraconeaWriter]

Funny, you mention that. I just did a wall break, though in my story, it's to inform the reader about the world I'm creating.

Here's chapter 6 as it starts: "In the nearby blacksmith, a herdkin, or as the humans here call them, cattle on two legs, is working hard to get the order filled."

Still, a wall break is still good if people know the franchise. That way, you can joke about the world, the characters and even events that have happened. As for other writers (including myself), it's best to inform rather than joke.

 

[JayMark]

I despise overt fourth wall breaks in books, especially if done merely for shock value. I especially hate characters breaking a format in scene to talk to the reader directly. It's one of my few weaknesses as a reader and writer, because I don't think it's necessarily a flaw. I'll accept something cleverly done, or well disguised. But I think 4th wall breaking is one of those things enjoyed because it breaks common practice, but if it becomes common practice, it gets tiring quickly.

 

[Eldoria]

I can accept it if it happens in the first POV as a meta-narrative within the mind of a disguised narrator. You know... real people often talk to themselves through their thoughts, too. Therefore, providing commentary in the first POV happens naturally without breaking the immersion.

However, you still have to disguise it; have the narrator talking to himself/herself in a way that implicitly seems to be engaging the reader. Don't break the boundaries between the story world, the characters, and the reader.

Don't say it is just a story. It would destroy the immersion effect that makes the reader realize they're just reading black ink on white paper.

 

[MFontana]

I can accept it if it happens in the first POV as a meta-narrative within the mind of a disguised narrator. You know... real people often talk to themselves through their thoughts, too. Therefore, providing commentary in the first POV happens naturally without breaking the immersion.

However, you still have to disguise it; have the narrator talking to himself/herself in a way that implicitly seems to be engaging the reader. Don't break the boundaries between the story world, the characters, and the reader.

Don't say it is just a story. It would destroy the immersion effect that makes the reader realize they're just reading black ink on white paper.

So, something like this, El?

Spoiler: Spoiler-Free Interlude Excerpt

So I guess, you could call that plan a success if you want, but I can't escape this feeling clawing at the back of my mind like I've overlooked something.

Something small.

But something vital.

No matter what I do, though, this feeling won't go away, so I've just got to keep my eyes open, and to make sure we're ready for whatever comes our way as best I can.

That's what Adventurerers do after all. Right?

We face the challenges put in front of us head on, and we don't back down no matter what.

Like the heroes from our old world that our games and stories were all based on.

In this bit, you'd be reading one of Lucius' journal entries, but they are also his way of directly speaking to the reader as well as organizing his throughts.

 

[Eldoria]

I despise overt fourth wall breaks in books, especially if done merely for shock value. I especially hate characters breaking a format in scene to talk to the reader directly. It's one of my few weaknesses as a reader and writer, because I don't think it's necessarily a flaw. I'll accept something cleverly done, or well disguised. But I think 4th wall breaking is one of those things enjoyed because it breaks common practice, but if it becomes common practice, it gets tiring quickly.

If the fourth wall is broken explicitly or blatantly, the fiction will feel like a parody or a comedic cartoon rather than a living story. The skill of obscuring the fourth wall also indicates how competently the author constructs the narrative.

So, something like this, El?

Spoiler: Spoiler-Free Interlude Excerpt

So I guess, you could call that plan a success if you want, but I can't escape this feeling clawing at the back of my mind like I've overlooked something.

Something small.

But something vital.

No matter what I do, though, this feeling won't go away, so I've just got to keep my eyes open, and to make sure we're ready for whatever comes our way as best I can.

That's what Adventurerers do after all. Right?

We face the challenges put in front of us head on, and we don't back down no matter what.

Like the heroes from our old world that our games and stories were all based on.

In this bit, you'd be reading one of Lucius' journal entries, but they are also his way of directly speaking to the reader as well as organizing his throughts.

It's a clever disguise that uses the terms "you", "I" and "we" as a dialectic within the narrator's mind. Narratively, the character is thinking through an inner monologue (dialectic). However, the reader reading this narrative feels as if they are being invited to speak face-to-face with the character.

 

[thegingernut]

I do them as part of my MC's internal monologue or else comments characters make to each other. And I try to make them subtle because if you break the forth wall too hard you risk convincing your audience you're not taking your own story seriously. You could argue I'm not breaking the forth wall at all.

You'd think that harvest days would be considered a fun day off from the monotony of school life. In other places perhaps. However, in the town, high school was basically just a building where all the young people hung out. There were no state standardized tests. The teachers didn't care if you ignored them so long as you were quiet. There was no collage to study for really. The whole institution felt almost out of place. Like an element of some childish writer's story, added to the setting not because it fit, but because school was all the writer had ever known and so assumed it the default state of affairs and not an institution designed to create obedient factory workers; something which the town had no demand for.

"So could you look like anyone" xe asked of Alice. "Pretty much but the tits stay" said Alice. "Because your power allows you to change everything but your tits?" gasped Charlie. "No, because I like them" smiled Alice. "… based" said Charlie. "Huh?" grunted Alice, with a confused head tilt. "Oh, language evolves over time. Honestly with how isolated the town is I'm surprised there hasn't been a bit of drift and a bunch of local colloquialisms" I noted. "Maybe the town isn't very imaginative" mused Charlie. "Maybe".

Her right thigh was exposed by a slit in the dress, smooth and shiny in the moonlight and WHATEVER GOD GAVE ME STUPID MIND POWERS AND NOT SHAPESHIFTING BETTER WATCH HER DAMN BACK!

 

[MC-Stories]

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Kinda like this!

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I forgot about two others - in the story I have on HoneyFeed, the first and last chapters directly address the reader, one introducing the setting from the point of view of an unseen narrator, the second transitioning the story from a semi-conclusion to a possible sequel - these two bits are first person, and implied (though not actually) spoken by the System of the title (The Kaiju System). If I ever write the sequel, that will explain who it really is and why they are narrating. The rest of the story is in third person with the audience just witnesses, not drawn in by the Observer.
True Blue is a "nested first person" story - there's a narrator talking to the audience about the actual story, and telling bits and pieces of a framing story (mostly stuff someone in their world would already know but the reader, being from THIS world, would not), and then the actual story sections are the memoirs of that narrator's father, also told in first person - even with some asides like: "I did not witness this scene, but I have assembled it from the reports of those who did..." for things I really needed to do in third person.

 

[worldismyne]

As someone who writes in 3rd person, I don't.

The world is real to the characters, and they perceive no audience.

When I'm reading 1st person, I consider the narration itself the 4th wall break (since the character is already telling their story). An additional acknowledgement of the audience (ie, using 'you' to refer to the reader) has to be established early and fit with the tense of the existing narrative. If it acknowledges the act of reading, or switches tenses, it's jarring.

Ex:

"He slapped my hand, can you believe he did that?" < fine

"He slapped my hand. Yeah, you're reading that right." < immersion breaking, the character is drawing attention to the act of reading, instead of what's happening to them and shifts tenses. The italics only drawing more attention to it.

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If the story is in 3rd person, I highly discourage 4th wall breaks. It just reminds me of 2000s fanfiction, and undermines the commentary being made.

Ex:

"He slaps Katie's hand. Are you guys reading this!? He slaps me!" < Shifts the narrator and breaks immersion.

"He slapped Katie's hand. The nerve of that man! She looked around to see if anyone shared her indignity." < Same idea and emotional reaction from Katie, keeps emersion intact for the reader.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

This just reminds me of the chapter break in one section of Peter David's Howling Mad. Some chapters are told by a reporter in third person as he pieces together events. Other passages are in first person, told by one of the two MCs. One chapter ends with: "She came home, finding not the man she expected, but a strangely docile, but very large wolf, that immediately padded over to her, and, to her shock, stuck its nose in her crotch."
That is the end of the chapter. The entirety of the next chapter is a chapter number. the name of the Wolfwere character (first person chapters were all given the "title" of the character; third person ones had a more "traditional" title) and:
"It seemed the polite thing to do at the time."

 

[DismaiNaim]

I'm considering it for chapter 78.

So far MC's relationship with his gf has been... uncensored. I'm considering putting some of the brown-chicken-brown-cow behind a fourth wall. Like:

I kissed her. She kissed me and...

Dear audience, this one is sacred. No details for you

...We woke up together after.

 

[LeilaniOtter]

I'm considering it for chapter 78.

So far MC's relationship with his gf has been... uncensored. I'm considering putting some of the brown-chicken-brown-cow behind a fourth wall. Like:

I kissed her. She kissed me and...

Dear audience, this one is sacred. No details for you

...We woke up together after.

If I may:, "let us just draw the curtain on the rest of this sordid scene, shall we?"

"Dear audience" just made me cringe.

 

[Zagaroth]

There are no narrative fourth wall breaks in my story.

There is one character who hypothetically could do direct 4th wall breaks ala Deadpool, but his limited ability to understand what he truly is prevents that sort of break.

So, he only sort of breaks the fourth wall via references, such as one of his ramblings going on about

how awful ties are because they choke you except for bow ties of course cause bow ties are cool oh hey did I ever tell you about my friend Who travels about in a flying blue box?

Since no one in universe knows where the lines are between stories he's read and stories he's experienced (partially because Li doesn't know either), everyone learns to ignore the confusing things he says, because you will drive yourself insane otherwise.

Oh, and I am going to leave a comment apologizing to my editor right before the point Li is introduced. Li does not talk in run-on sentences with no punctuation, he talks in run-on paragraphs, mostly without punctuation.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I'm considering it for chapter 78.

So far MC's relationship with his gf has been... uncensored. I'm considering putting some of the brown-chicken-brown-cow behind a fourth wall. Like:

I kissed her. She kissed me and...

Dear audience, this one is sacred. No details for you

...We woke up together after.

Here's how I handled a similar moment:

“Still sounds like a bit of a one-sided deal, with everything coming out in my favor…” I mused. “There has to be more in it for you…”

She moved closer, placing one of her slim hands on each of my shoulders. “Ever hear about something called a ‘kept man'?” She asked with a twinkle in her eye.

I had heard the term, sure, but was curious to see where this was going. “I might have. Would you care to elaborate?”

She giggled. It was a cute giggle. “Well, I pay your expenses, and you pay me with little things like this,” and here she kissed my right cheek.

“Or maybe this,” as she planted another on my left.

“Or maybe even…” I didn't let her finish this one as my lips met hers. It was as magical as it had been that first time, back when we were teens. And I should know - I now have magic.

What, you want more? Maybe someday I'll stop being a gentleman and put the X-rated version out there somewhere.