Anyone ever launch the idea of coordination amongst authors here?

[L1aei]

It's funny. Every time someone mentions RR, I think to myself, "eh, it's probably not that bad. It's all just an exaggeration based upon one or two bad eggs." So I probably wouldn't believe it.

RRL didn't use to be like that, though.

 

[Nyctoria]

RRL didn't use to be like that, though.

Used to be a Legendary Moonlight Sculptor translation site.

 

[L1aei]

Used to be a Legendary Moonlight Sculptor translation site.

Don't forget Overgeared.

 

[Nolff]

which book, which chapter did you read.
why don't you let me pick one of my more *recently* edited chapters, that's a better example.
there's some stuff there, that's unedited to how I edit now, from a couple years ago.

nolff? the quality of my writing. is *not* the point of all this. Its neither here nor there.

I keep saying it... this? what I propose. Will not really benefit me!
It would, however... benefit the better writers.
how in the world, is it in any way logical. That the quality of my writing, affects the logic of my argument.
in no way whatsoever.

from what L1aei said? *anyone* here (better writers then me, I'm quite sure)
if they want to write yuri?
They're not *allowed* !!
some, discord cabal? Enforces it!

you like living like that? Fine.

you like going up against a coordinated team, as one man? again, fine. Keep doing it.

you like entering a sword fight with a one foot sword, and everyone else has a four foot sword?
more power to you.

you enjoy starting the monopoly game with 200 dollars, as per the rules? and the other players are getting 10,000 to start with.
fine by me.

the quality, or the lack thereof, of my writing? does not affect my logic of what I propose, one single iota.

once more. this benefits me? not at all.
it would only benefit, the better writers. who actually have a chance.

Alr then, you may show me the edited chaps.

And yeah, sure. I'd rather be on my own and post weekly than to group up with other writers. I mean, look at Assurbanipal. Bro got onto the trending lists often here, and sometimes his fic on RR got trending too. And that's without the help of groups.

If you really want this to be 'your's yours, mine's mine' business, then go for it. I won't discourage you anymore. I'll just see this develop and fall from the sideline.

 

[Makimaam]

Claiming a work is only popular because of cliques, aggressive marketing, or Satanic chanting is pure copium. Wait. What is this thread actually about? I spaced out after the first two sentences and just assumed the rest, sorry.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

I think the main problem I have with these suggestions is that I don't see these things as benefits.


Look at these. Are these things really benefits?

Waves of false positive comments from people who don't actually care about your work?
Waves of five stars by people who didn't bother reading your work?
Waves of readers who just skim down the page because that's all it takes to count as a valid read?

Aren't these just drugs to get us addicted to the things that don't really matter?

Second of all, you seem to have this strange idea that we're fighting other sites. But the views, reviews, and ratings from RR don't affect views, reviews, and ratings here. They're completely separate. Our competition is solely other novels on Scribblehub. Therefore, it doesn't make any sense to bring in the workings of other sites and compare it to Scribblehub.

everyone knows, that RR is where the big market is. Its not anything I can aspire to.
but for those that have it within their ability?
those things you list, and claim they're worthless.
worthless here, sure.
but on RR, where the big market is... it levels the playing field for anyone trying there.

 

[Nolff]

Claiming a work is only popular because of cliques, aggressive marketing, or Satanic chanting is pure copium. Wait. What is this thread actually about? I spaced out after the first two sentences and just assumed the rest, sorry.

Boyo wanted to make a group where people support each other stories and give five stars to each other, much like the group on RR which I don't know the name of.

 

[Nyctoria]

Boyo wanted to make a group where people support each other stories and give five stars to each other, much like the group on RR which I don't know the name of.

Those groups are sometimes not a group at all. They are all the same person.

 

[laccoff_mawning]

worthless here, sure.

Exactly my point. This forum? It's Scribblehub forums. And for 'here', these things are worthless.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Though I've heard he did not actually say it, I like the quote allegedly from Groucho Marx: "I would never join any group that would have me as a member."

 

[Nolff]

Though I've heard he did not actually say it, I like the quote allegedly from Groucho Marx: "I would never join any group that would have me as a member."

Literally me and probably other people, lmao. I won't lie, I'd probably like it more if I have authority over others. Yes, that means trolling will exist. And yes, I'd be someone horrendous to be seen holding authority.

 

[Alski]

Serious question

why.
do.
you.
type.
like.
this.

 

[tiaf]

Idk. I

Hey, you in agreement with my assessment on Yuri Garden being territorial?

have no experience with their operations or NUF.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

we have three choices...
we can hate and review bomb each other (retarded) (this? is what my *last* site does. Idiots.)
we can do *nothing*, which is pretty much what we do now.
we can all show each other love.

now... I ask you.
Out of three choices?
which one is the worst.(first option)
which one is the best. (last option)
which one are we doing now. (middle option)

The problem I see with forming an actual 'group' of authors that supports other authors in the group is that it opens the possibility of abuse against authors who are not in that group. It just takes one disagreement at some point, and suddenly the group becomes a weapon, and once you use a weapon, it is easier to justify using it again.

Right now, SH is a wonderful community full of discourse, with people of all different viewpoints sharing ideas. It's full of individuals with different takes on writing. If you start forming cliques, this individuality will begin to disappear, as the opinions of the group will just become a sounding board.

We already have to compete with translated Xianxia and Cultivation baloney coming in from China; why should we invite the possibility of more infighting amongst actual authors? The way we do things may not be perfect, but it is better than the other options available.

Anyways, you do you. I just see no need for a change that would stagnate growth and creativity, as I believe groups like these would.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

The problem I see with forming an actual 'group' of authors that supports other authors in the group is that it opens the possibility of abuse against authors who are not in that group. It just takes one disagreement at some point, and suddenly the group becomes a weapon, and once you use a weapon, it is easier to justify using it again.

Right now, SH is a wonderful community full of discourse, with people of all different viewpoints sharing ideas. It's full of individuals with different takes on writing. If you start forming cliques, this individuality will begin to disappear, as the opinions of the group will just become a sounding board.

We already have to compete with translated Xianxia and Cultivation baloney coming in from China; why should we invite the possibility of more infighting amongst actual authors? The way we do things may not be perfect, but it is better than the other options available.

Anyways, you do you. I just see no need for a change that would stagnate growth and creativity, as I believe groups like these would.

Here? Is a wonderful place. its only for RR use, not for here. Because that's the state of things on the ground over there. I mean, I had no intentions of ever trying to make a yuri for RR? But now that I know some discord star chamber *forbids* it, and enforces it? it chaps my dimpled white irish @$$. What's next. Some... "Isekai Production Group" claims all isekai on RR, or else.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

There's a Boy's Love author circle here, the BL Palace.

@yansusustories and @tiaf are members.

not, my kind of kosher.

And, hello? Why are you posting with such level of grammar, while the grammar on your novels are more decent to be used here? Doesn't mean your wording there is good either.

Dude. you're not exactly in a position to be talking smack on my grammar. I'm not one to go making fun of someone for sounding like the clerk at the seven eleven because I don't mind foreigners. but you brought it up and impugned my prose first. You sound like tech support. get a grip. You are in no position to be giving english lessons. saar. And if your AI wonder-novel got a few more views than my stuff, more power to you. Because "when you are being talking like this" you don't exactly sit in the catbird's seat.

Serious question

why.
do.
you.
type.
like.
this.

to.
annoy.
my.
cat.

 

[Hans.Trondheim]

Well, in any case, since I finally understood this...I'm not really in favor, though I will surely benefit in this suggestion.

For one, such "group" can end up abused, and drive away starting authors. Such lack of newbies would limit the diversity of the stories here, already suffering from the influx of translations, AI slops, and isekai-smut photocopies.

Having exclusive groups would also stratify the forum, causing newbies who can't really socialize well to feel out of place.

And finally, reviews and ratings won't be authentic. Even if one puts up a rule that says, "Grade a story base on its merits" many would still do it because "author A is a good friend".

 

[Deleted member 44974]

Here

Curious tho, if you did form a cabal here what would you call yourselves?

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Let me just explain you right away so then you understand what I mean.
...
I want you to understand that yes, I know you're writing for a specific kind of readers. I'm not here to make a comparison of my good writing and your bad writing, even though I am. No, don't even look at me glazing myself.

I am not trying to prove a point about me being better than you.

(editors note: that's a relief, judging by the first two sentences)

The grammar of your works is okay, most of the time.

(editor's note: not exactly high praise, considering the fountainhead this flows from. That's my alliteration and some idiom, by the by)

The phrasing, how you form words and sentences, how your paragraphs flow, and whatnot, feels so weird that I can't play the scene in my head.

Oh lord. Awkward. With your... let us just say that there might possibly be another reason for this, and leave it at that.

Reading a scene and imagining it coming to life is what makes reading fictions fun. But, your books, my friend, feels like it doesn't want to be played. It only wanted to be read and understood on the very basic level of understanding, as if it's a documentary.

Yeah. I think, the stuff that's one sentence paragraphs? Is more your speed. I write in big boy paragraphs.

Sorry, but if I cannot make sense of it, I'm sure that's why people flock away from your books.

again, you not grasping some of my sentence structure... yeah, it could seem a little like a documentary on PBS space-time to you. I'd recommend some Judy Blume, she's pretty good. For you. maybe... my nephew said the hungry hungry caterpillar is a blast. There's another one.

To anyone who wants to help me prove my point, you can read her novels here in her SH profile. Be sure to leave a comment here and there, if you want to help prove my point. https://www.scribblehub.com/profile/243593/tinamigarlo/

chief? I'll tell you a secret, if you know where to keep it, and you promise not to tell. I just happened to have been looking at my "views" and my "reads"... right before you started in with all this, this morning. I just *happened* to know what those numbers were. And you claimed to have read anything of mine? Ace. Player to player, pimp to pimp. not *one* view went up. Not *one* read went up. All you could have done? Was look and see my numbers. That's it.

"The way you are being with your typing"... why don't we both enter our own thread. We both, timed, make our own little story. *live*. I will smoke you.

and you will be being much the amazed one, with such a thing to be being happening.

 

[LastMinami]

Let's say that any group of people who come together to score points and support each other is destined to become corrupt in a short time....