Love and hate of a pregnant women for her unborn child

CheertheSecond

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I ran a scenario simulation and somehow this was the result I got.

The woman hated and despised her unborn child because it is a result of a violation, it is a stain, a humiliation. She treated it as a parasite. She hated it.

However, she loved it at the same time. A very contradicting emotion. She couldn't bring herself to abort the kid. She couldn't afford to lose it. Something about the fetus gave her a feeling of "this is part of me", "this is also me" which she interpreted as her maternal instinct speaking. Moreover, even when she named it a parasite, she didn't feel that it endangered or harmed her like a parasite does. She is disoriented with her own contradictions, torn between emotions and logic, confused about her own thoughts and reasonings. She didn't know where her logic ended and feelings begun. Additionally, she had a miscarriage. She couldn't bear experiencing another incident of not feeling the fetus' heartbeat.
 

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I ran a scenario simulation and somehow this was the result I got.

The woman hated and despised her unborn child because it is a result of a violation, it is a stain, a humiliation. She treated it as a parasite. She hated it.

However, she loved it at the same time. A very contradicting emotion. She couldn't bring herself to abort the kid. She couldn't afford to lose it. Something about the fetus gave her a feeling of "this is part of me", "this is also me" which she interpreted as her maternal instinct speaking. Moreover, even when she named it a parasite, she didn't feel that it endangered or harmed her like a parasite does. She is disoriented with her own contradictions, torn between emotions and logic, confused about her own thoughts and reasonings. She didn't know where her logic ended and feelings begun. Additionally, she had a miscarriage. She couldn't bear experiencing another incident of not feeling the fetus' heartbeat.
... Sir, I am confused.

What is the point for you to post this other than to flaunt that you have a good character created?
 

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... Sir, I am confused.

What is the point for you to post this other than to flaunt that you have a good character created?
No. I was just expressing my confusion at the result I had reached. My thoughts before this thought experiment was much simpler. I thought that people will just hate or love and stick with it. I never imagined it could have so many twists and turns. I was baffled because my reasonings were still in the realm of possibility although it may not be plausible in some cases. It's like my common sense was enlightened. I couldn't believe I overlooked and overgeneralised before this result was out.

It's like discovering that cows can eat snakes or that crocs can climb trees. Facts and logic discern they can but it's so out of place, my thought never bothered with the possibility.
 

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Love and hate are close to each other and don't have to exclude each other. Love-hate relationships are a thing.

Especially for mothers after giving birth. The sudden change of hormones and additional stress can lead to postpartum depression and make them hate their baby.
The woman hated and despised her unborn child because it is a result of a violation, it is a stain, a humiliation. She treated it as a parasite. She hated it
this is sadly a common scenario
 

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So why did you design a narrative about a woman who is pregnant as a result of "violation"? Doesn't that tarnish your own character? There are many ways to narrate a pregnant woman without making her "dirty."

Perhaps she became pregnant after marriage, but tragically her husband died, leaving her to raise the child she was carrying alone (a tragedy version). Or perhaps a woman could have a child through a miraculous mechanism or miracle.

Mary conceived Jesus without a man's touch, thanks to a miracle (we're not debating theology). Or a mother protagonist who conceives a child as a consequence of a fantasy world: Cayna has a biological child from a "game womb," Azusa has twin daughters from 300 years of slime farming. There are always ways to glorify pregnancy and glorify women.

Personally, I'm quite sensitive to the issue of women, especially mothers, being demeaned for the sake of an entertaining plot. I prefer to present a mother who loves her children with a wholesome narrative, even though the world can be dark.
 

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No. I was just expressing my confusion at the result I had reached. My thoughts before this thought experiment was much simpler. I thought that people will just hate or love and stick with it. I never imagined it could have so many twists and turns. I was baffled because my reasonings were still in the realm of possibility although it may not be plausible in some cases. It's like my common sense was enlightened. I couldn't believe I overlooked and overgeneralised before this result was out.

It's like discovering that cows can eat snakes or that crocs can climb trees. Facts and logic discern they can but it's so out of place, my thought never bothered with the possibility.

Not to sound demeaning or rude or anything.. it's just..
Do you not have many woman around in your life? sister's aunts, mom, or female friends? You should ask them directly. These kinds of emotions are incredibly common, even just the thought about pregnancy, and even seeing children's items like clothes or toys can give plenty of rise to love, or hate, or anger, or want. Just looking around, like really sitting and looking around, you can see the way people act around kids, men included. Pride, and joy, and aggressive disgust for one's own is two side of the same coin.

My own experiences on the topic have pretty much scarred me emotionally, but I still have thoughts on wanting a child, though if asked, I do say aloud, I don't plan or ever want to have one.

If given the chance, ask someone close to you. These are heavy topics that society, especially gov't, are too afraid to speak about.. but should be more inquisitive about; Physical and Mental Health should be a normal topic, it's quite literally talking about humanities future.
 

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So why did you design a narrative about a woman who is pregnant as a result of "violation"? Doesn't that tarnish your own character? There are many ways to narrate a pregnant woman without making her "dirty."

Perhaps she became pregnant after marriage, but tragically her husband died, leaving her to raise the child she was carrying alone (a tragedy version). Or perhaps a woman could have a child through a miraculous mechanism or miracle.

Mary conceived Jesus without a man's touch, thanks to a miracle (we're not debating theology). Or a mother protagonist who conceives a child as a consequence of a fantasy world: Cayna has a biological child from a "game womb," Azusa has twin daughters from 300 years of slime farming. There are always ways to glorify pregnancy and glorify women.

Personally, I'm quite sensitive to the issue of women, especially mothers, being demeaned for the sake of an entertaining plot. I prefer to present a mother who loves her children with a wholesome narrative, even though the world can be dark.

They are characters as in humans. They are capable of good, and they are also capable of evil. They are beautiful, they can also be ugly. I prefer the duality of nature than just the goodness of things. Moreover, I don't think I am concerning about the mother side of a woman as much as the person side of the character. They are mothers sometimes. Other times, they are deep in blood and gore. Then, there are times they are graceful and beyond everyone's grasp. Sometimes, they are forced to grovel onto the ground. The thing I want to prove: "She may be scarred, bound, violated, lost. She may be stripped of her beauty, of dignity and of herself; but beautiful, dignified and herself she is. A diamond deep in mud is diamond nevertheless. A kneeling god even at their last strand of divinity is never for mortals to tame."
 

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This feels a little too deep for a character.
Were you a pregnant woman before or something?
Why the simulation in the first place?
I feel concerned for some reason.
 
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