How difficult is it to suddenly become a V-Tuber?

[Lysander_Works]

Real question here ~ I'm curious about the entry difficulty in how it can be done.
Like, what kinds of equipment and internet speeds required to even consider it? ~ How much would that equipment theoretically cost?
Which streaming/upload/video platforms would be best to use? What kind of physical 3-D environment is recommended for the setup?

Last but not least, what does this have to do with Scribblehub? > I'll get to that.
I guess I'm just wondering if it is something I might consider, of course from the position that I know nothing about actually being a V-tuber. Even if I did want to become one, what would I do it for? Likely I would want to somehow tie it into being an author. I mean, imagine if a fairly known V-Tuber started talking about their Scribblehub page, and then all the views they might get... Sure, I'm just imagining wild things at the moment, but this is kind of why I want to know more. Anyone out there on the forums know more about it?

 

[LuoirM]

Are you rich?

 

[georgelee5786]

Probably very if you dont have a company to support you

 

[Deleted member 146224]

Like, what kinds of equipment and internet speeds required to even consider it? ~ How much would that equipment theoretically cost?
Which streaming/upload/video platforms would be best to use? What kind of physical 3-D environment is recommended for the setup?

Bulky PC to handle OBS + whatever game you wanna stream, decent microphone + audio interface, camera (the cheapest to get), lights, etc. - a lot of $$$ if you have to start from 0.
YT is the least bad for the streaming platforms currently. Twitch is a joke.

Even if you get all the equipment, what is a real problem is promotion. Unless you have an actual company supporting you, the chances of being discovered are close to none.

 

[Daitengu]

The indies like Shylily say to start as cheap as possible to see if you even like streaming at all.

That means a png or self made vtube studio avatar. A $40-60 mic. And enough internet speed to where you aren't stuttering. That means 2nd tier cable internet. DSL or satellite isn't gonna cut it. Avatar tracking can be done on your phone hooked up to your PC.

Remember, Pippa started on a shitty laptop.

 

[CamilleCrow]

If you're going indie, refer to the other forum members above.
If you are going to going corporate, you have to learn what games you can and can't play [if you're on a japanese company like 2434or Hololive, because japanese copyright laws are pure whack. if not, skip this step], make sure you're not acting too wild otherwise you're gonna be seen as a risk, deal with possible petty office politics, among other things. Also, you have to keep your lips tightly sealed when it comes to sensitive things, like political events or company info.

There's alot of advantage of going indie, but there's also alot of advantage of going corporate, but i'm too lazy to list them so lmao

 

[Rhaps]

I tried being a vtuber before. It is pretty expensive, I used two laptops, one high end and one that is a fossil.

I tried this set up with the heaviest game on my laptop, Apex Legends. It handles pretty well, though lag is a problem.

This only include my normal set up so the actual price would be higher. In total, $600. Not counting the model.

 

[LilRora]

Internet speed shouldn't be an issue unless you live in a remote area; if you have enough to smoothly run videos in 1440p, then you probably have enough to stream. The cost of the equipment is very dependent on the quality you want; for a simple 2D model, I think a relatively good camera plus good microphone is enough, though there's also all the software and hardware you would need to run it.

The camera and a microphone may cost as little as 100-150$ in total, though it can go way higher for some better setups (you can check out Zentreya on Twitch or on Youtube, I think she has the most advanced model among all Vtubers; I don't know how much her equipment cost, but I think it's in thousands of dollars for the body tracking she has - then compare that to the simplest 2D models). I'm not sure about the software needed to run it all, but it should be relatively cheap compared to the equipment. Just a lot of work that will cost unless you do it by yourself.

The issue here is if you have a PC good enough to run it all on top of whatever you want to stream. If you don't, a good enough one is at least a few hundred dollars by itself. You might have noticed, this here is a pretty typical situation where you don't need anything all that expensive, but you need a lot of things running together.

What I just described, though, if for indie Vtubers, things are much different if we're talking about company Vtubers, who have a lot provided by the company. The issue with those is you need to get accepted, and as there's quite a lot of people applying, it can be very hard to stand out among them. Plus then you have expectations on yourself from the company, and generally a lot of things you have to deal with that you might not want to.

As for streaming platform, Twitch is decidedly the most popular. I don't have enough experience with it to say if it's better or worse than Youtube or some other platforms, but in that regard a lot of it is just preference and trading one advantage over another.

 

[BigBadBoi]

Depends
>rig
unless you know how to rig it will cost you to rig a model if you're going 2D
>avatar
you have to either commission or make a model yourself and making a live2d model is more complicated than a simple illustration so it costs more if you're planning to go 2D
>motion trackers if 3d
most cost hundreds of bucks but probably optional
>mic
There are cheap ones but it's 50+ bucks if you want it at least halfway decent
>pc
you have to have a decent enough pc to run all of that shit unless you want to stream with a png

vtuber stories I see here and in novelupdates make me cringe because most don't have a clue about vtubers outside of funny haha clips in youtube

 

[Jaymi]

Do it.
Just do it.
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
Yesterday, you said tomorrow. So just do it.
Make your dreams come true. Just do it.
Some people dream of success, while you're gonna wake up and work hard at it.
Nothing is impossible. You should get to the point where anyone else would quit, and you're not gonna stop there. No, what are you waiting for? Do it! Just do it! Yes you can. Just do it.

 

[Azure_Fog]

Okay, this is going to take a while. As a preface, this is bits and pieces I remember from various sources and may or may not be accurate.

First, let’s start with skills since it’s probably going to be the shortest. As a Vtuber, you’re an entertainer like any other streamer. You’ll face the same challenges and need the same skills in order to be successful.

Second, equipment. First you need something capable of streaming, including internet speeds. You don’t need an amazing setup, but you’ll need to stream at least decent quality. Then a microphone, doesn’t have to be great but needs to be pretty good. Finally, you’ll need something that can track you. I believe your phone can do that. If I remember correctly, the Vtuber Rin Penrose from IdolEN uses a phone for this purpose. For the price of this it’ll be anywhere from like $50 to several hundred? Maybe? No idea how much this stuff costs…

Then there’s software. OBS will work for streaming and recording and is generally the best there is. You can use Streamlabs OBS (SLOBS) as well. Streamlabs is also pretty good for alerts from what I’ve looked at, but you don’t need to use SLOBS to use their alerts. You also need something to run your model Vtuber Studio works for Live2D, no idea for 3D ones. As for other software recommendations, there’s Nightbot for chat moderation and Streamerbot as an alternative to alerts and is from what I’ve seen, a very good choice. The company Pirate Software uses it for their development streams and Thor, their game director and the one who streams, has lots of useful information on Streamerbot and streaming. I believe these are all free, so no cost here.

Last part, a model. For a model, you gave two options: Live2D or 3D. (There’s actually another option but I’ll talk about that later) For both scenarios, you have 2 choices again: Draw it yourself or commission it. For Live2D, any painting software should work. For 3D, any 3D modelling software should work, but Vroid Studio is made especially for this purpose and includes rigging and animation abilities. People have made impressive models using it so it may be worth a shot. Anyways, speaking of rigging, if you go with Live2D, then you’ll need to rig the model yourself or hire someone to do so. I have no idea how this works, so I have no comments. This can cost anywhere from free to thousands of dollars.

Actual last section: PNGs. Yes, technically these are Vtubers. You can use a single image that has mouth animations. (Or more, not like I can stop you) It’s cheaper and I don’t know how to set it up, but it’s an option.

Third, platforms. YouTube and Twitch. Both if possible (assuming you stream, otherwise just YouTube. TikTok is worth considering for short form content). (Guess that was shorter than the first)

Fourth, enviroment. Same as any old streamer should be fine. Lighting is probably important because your face has to be tracked.

Finally, bonus section: Agencies! The answer for you is no. Go ahead and apply if you want but they have no reason to chose you right now. However, if you ever do get into one, or even want to consider it, remember that it’s no longer a passion project but a full time job. They may cover model costs and give you legal protection, but at the end of the day, you are their employee.

Woah~ that’s a lot of writing…
Also, like, look it up on YouTube. Actual Vtubers have made plenty of videos on this topic.

 

[Tsuru]

Real question here ~ I'm curious about the entry difficulty in how it can be done.
Like, what kinds of equipment and internet speeds required to even consider it? ~ How much would that equipment theoretically cost?
Which streaming/upload/video platforms would be best to use? What kind of physical 3-D environment is recommended for the setup?

Last but not least, what does this have to do with Scribblehub? > I'll get to that.
I guess I'm just wondering if it is something I might consider, of course from the position that I know nothing about actually being a V-tuber. Even if I did want to become one, what would I do it for? Likely I would want to somehow tie it into being an author. I mean, imagine if a fairly known V-Tuber started talking about their Scribblehub page, and then all the views they might get... Sure, I'm just imagining wild things at the moment, but this is kind of why I want to know more. Anyone out there on the forums know more about it?

1) No company = very hard. Its like blizzard brand, does people even know about other hack&slash beside diablo/poe/lastepoch ?
2) Male or female ? If female is far easier (cough hololive male vtubers kinda unpopular)
3) Quite too late as market is surpopulated, dozens of unknown vtubers with just like 50 viewers out there, or even 12. Heck even youtubers have created a "vtuber" face, like a fish or something.

4) THE THEME OF THE VTUBER. or basically CHARA DESIGN
Example. You can't re-use same ideas like Houshou marine pirate. or shark gura.
Example 2. The "realistic" recent gen of Hololive with gyaru etc. A comment once said "market is now saturated and also bc their chara designs are not very INTERESTING like the overly sexy houshou marine and co"

So its kinda problematic to create new one, with the popular themes already chosen.
Because its like the old logic "why should they come if they already have something of this category?"
Tomboy, got subaru. cute, gura. angel, kanata. Overly funny yuri girl, matsuri. Cute kitsune funny ? Fubuki
Trolling girl with "weird laugh" to laugh at when she fails ? Pekora
Sexy big boobies ? Shylily orca


5) Need talents like singing, drawing, etc
6) This unknown to explain phenomenon of "ATTRACTIVENESS"
For me for example. EVERY SINGLE FKING TIME I SPEAK, TALK, HELP. I suffer from bad luck. Example : 2 wokes, yes, 2 of them. Were a pain in the ass, RIGHT HERE in scribble forum, despite me trying at first to help them.
I easily annoy people and stuff.
So yes, its kinda in the "supernatural" domain but proven to exist. Like luck.

7) KEEP STICKING TO your vtuber theme. Like gura, staying cute. Ina, being ultra calm.
Same person irl = Pikamee / Henya, vtuber.
If nitpicking in a very evil way, it could be said that "the persona" is totally fake. As Pikamee and Henya, act totally different on screen.
(Just explaining details/facts, having no hate for her, and disliking the mob that made her "quit")
Also there are videos showing real face of hololive vtubers, and for example Calliope, despite giga chad "dad" female vtuber and interesting voice, is just a random american girl with makeup. Houshou marine and Matsuri are random asian girls. And okayu, got a chubby face.
They are popular bc of "hololive brand"
BUT ALSO BECAUSE when they are behind, the "vtuber model" on the screen, they keep the attention of the public with enjoyable content.
Its like ClariS female singers that hidded behind masks, or DAFT PUNK.
Or singer tv show, hidden the face of the singer, and reveal she is ..... a "well endowed girl" or a "man".

8) Be cautious of your words
8.5) Stick to your persona with your words (and tone)
You can't basically talk about politics, if you are a cute vtuber like gura or kanata.
8.8) Stay positive i guess?

9) The tone of your voice. It must be nice to hear or originality.

10) Need hardwork, by editing, posting videos, socials, interacting, filming, choose what to do next with next video
Basically, a team is recommended. Maybe

11) USE REAL MONEY, (or yourself if talented), to create the 3d MODEL for your VTUBER persona
Vedal, the turtle, have created the coding for the AI neuro-sama. If removed neuro image is easy to see is an AI. But neuro isnt the main attraction point but vedal is AND neuro is the sauce on top.
Suisei, years years ago. Had a cheap 3d model. Done by herself. Unknown vtuber that persisted for years. Until finally hololive picked her up.
Fuwamococo. Very mega cute. But they were basically, twins vtubers before that. But just normal looking characters. Yes now they are cute by being fuwamococo hololivers, but people could say its basically "acting". But Is it false ? Not really as they bring healing to others.




TLDR : Its basically like creating a novel.
would you pay for your cover with real money, work hard, expect failure, have a original theme that is catchy, keep doing it for X years, being lucky, smut or not smut, competition, interaction skills, good looking "cover", the taste of audience, being knowledgeable about lot of stuff that could interest others, etc

TLDR 2 : Or you can think of it, like a ONLYFANS safe vers.
well i delete that, bc in just few mins, there are dumbasses, that dont understand what i meant

 

[BigBadBoi]

TLDR 2 : Or you can think of it, like a ONLYFANS safe vers.

This is the dumbest thing I've heard today. Vtubers are literally just streamers with an avatar.

 

[Tsuru]

This is the dumbest thing I've heard today. Vtubers are literally just streamers with an avatar.

Learn to understand "meanings" under words.

Though its indeed stupid, if only reading this part.

But nonethless, its also the reader fault to not understand the underlying meaning.

Its like i say "THE WORLD IS DARK BLACK"
Would you say "Nope, there is the sun ? Wtf are you talking about ? Or is there a eclipse where you live?"

 

[BigBadBoi]

Learn to understand "meanings" under words.

Though its indeed stupid, if only reading this part.

But nonethless, its also the reader fault to not understand the underlying meaning.

Its like i say "THE WORLD IS DARK BLACK"
Would you say "Nope, there is the sun ? Wtf are you talking about ? Or is there a eclipse where you live?"

I mean yeah I get what you're trying to saybut you really should have compared it to ANYTHING else than onlyfans. I mean it's a site for people to pay for nudes for crying out loud.

 

[Tsuru]

I mean yeah I get what you're trying to saybut you really should have compared it to ANYTHING else than onlyfans. I mean it's a site for people to pay for nudes for crying out loud.

Welp. Not really a problem. As its true.
I think its just that it irk you to compare vtubers with the "certain website for nsfw services"

My point was basically : you sell your "talents", to attract people to tip you, despite ton of alternative that are totally free

But still, in your defense, its human to have comparisons being irksome/annoying. And probably touched your ocd to compare both as one is 2d and one is "3d real body".

 

[BigBadBoi]

Welp. Not really a problem. As its true.
I think its just that it irk you to compare vtubers with the "certain website for nsfw services"

My point was basically : you sell your "talents", to attract people to tip you, despite ton of alternative that are totally free

But still, in your defense, its human to have comparisons being irksome/annoying. And probably touched your ocd to compare both as one is 2d and one is "3d real body".

This is dumb. It's like comparing a standup comedian to a pornstar because they both "entertain" you. I'm ending this discussion because it's veering to offtopic territory.

 

[Peter3135566]

YT is the least bad for the streaming platforms currently. Twitch is a joke.

Why do you define twich as a joke for v-tubers? I only ever use it to watch a few streamers of two diffrent topics and dont realy enter it otherwise, and never checkd how things are for the one making content, so im corius...

 

[Deleted member 146224]

Why do you define twich as a joke for v-tubers? I only ever use it to watch a few streamers of two diffrent topics and dont realy enter it otherwise, and never checkd how things are for the one making content, so im corius...

I mean, I define Twitch as a joke as a whole. Not only for V-tubers. The platform has been doing questionable things for a while. YouTube is not much better, but it's a step up over whatever twitch is doing (especially the latest controversy with horny streaming) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[TheEldritchGod]

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