Your Opinion On USA TikTok Ban.

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Biden wasn't trying to ban public use of tiktok. And neither is Trump really. Both parties are using the potential ban as a political tool. Cause the gov doesn't care if the lesser folk get keylogged by a foreign entity as long as they get benefits.
Once again, you're proving yourself wrong. The government didn't care until the Israel lobby and other jewish organizations started pushing for the tiktok ban. Most people have forgotten, but if you were tuned into politics it was pretty well known at the time. Just one example from the republican debates:
No idea how they came up with the statistic that 30 minutes of tiktok makes you 17% more antisemitic, but it just goes to show how owned our politicians are.
 

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I think the usa government is really trying too hard to control people when it comes to information, which is definitely a big failure considering the people of this century aren't idiots especially now in the era of internet,who says most of apps, websites or others whatnot illegal forums don't share your data and privacy.
The US has bigger issues, while I never used the app, I know for a fact that our medical system would be better if as many lawmakers gave a shit for making it it better. As for information being collected by China, that would happen anyways. I don’t like social media in general, with the exception YT, but if you think they aren’t selling your information to people, businesses, and governments willing to pay for it, then I don’t know what to tell ya.
 

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Are youtube shorts any different? Just curious on this whole tiktok thing coz I haven't been using social media since covid. I genuinely thought it was just like Vine?
A lot of shorts are reposted from tiktok, but some are original. Plus, youtube shorts still has the 1 minute limit.
 

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Once again, you're proving yourself wrong. The government didn't care until the Israel lobby and other jewish organizations started pushing for the tiktok ban. Most people have forgotten, but if you were tuned into politics it was pretty well known at the time. Just one example from the republican debates:
No idea how they came up with the statistic that 30 minutes of tiktok makes you 17% more antisemitic, but it just goes to show how owned our politicians are.
Nah, The US was never going to stop backing Israel. I mean it and the UK took the land and made it after all.

Also, you forgot the part where Trump said he WASN'T going to ban tiktok anymore during this election.
 
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Never used Tiktok, but I don't really believe the US will ban it. Wasn't Donald Trump making billions of views Tiktoks?
Oh yeah, I think it's pretty hypocritical to ban it anyway. Just like how Facebook say they will allow free speech but ban denial of another event in History. The truth is that the government just hates you as much as companies do. If companies liked their end user then they would stick to their guns, but they don't because of profit. Government is the exact same way. They are hypocrites. Ban one thing that's Chinese, while allowing the American companies to do the exact same thing. WOW, what a novel concept.
 

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Oh yeah, I think it's pretty hypocritical to ban it anyway. Just like how Facebook say they will allow free speech but ban denial of another event in History. The truth is that the government just hates you as much as companies do. If companies liked their end user then they would stick to their guns, but they don't because of profit. Government is the exact same way. They are hypocrites. Ban one thing that's Chinese, while allowing the American companies to do the exact same thing. WOW, what a novel concept.
The point of social media is to control the narrative, this is something people have to remember. They are competitive, and will try any means necessary to get as close to being the sole one people use to maximize their profits.
 

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The point of social media is to control the narrative, this is something people have to remember. They are competitive, and will try any means necessary to get as close to being the sole one people use to maximize their profits.
The point of media in general is to create a narrative, usually through the lens of the creators base culture or through the class culture/reality. Monopoly is the ideal end state of any business. Having a monopoly on media allows the monopolist(s) to control the narrative and reinforce their ideal class structure. The government itself is a tool for higher classes to mediate and conduct class warfare. When a narrative monopoly, like TikTok, allows the lower classes to even barely share their own class culture and reality it makes sense that the government would want to control it.
 
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I do remember some of the more insane things that did happen on TikTik though. The brainrot that is. There was the whole jumping off a speeding boat challenge, people got themselves killed.

When jumping off a speeding boat, the collision into the water can feel like concrete, as a result they broke their necks. :blob_blank:
 

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There was something that was called a TikTok challenge. In short, it became a fast track from this world to the next.
?‍♂️ It is a platform with a bunch of edgy teenagers, what else is to be expected.
 
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The point of social media is to control the narrative, this is something people have to remember. They are competitive, and will try any means necessary to get as close to being the sole one people use to maximize their profits.
The solution is not using those apps. It's just that a majority of people do. Money talks and BS walks. If the people stop giving them money, they will change what they do.
 

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?‍♂️ It is a platform with a bunch of edgy teenagers, what else is to be expected.
Yep, it is what made me wonder the hell happened to common sense. Basic survival instinct should tell you not to jump off a speeding boat.

Your body is designed to try and live, yet somehow they managed to get around that failsafe. :blob_blank:
The solution is not using those apps. It's just that a majority of people do. Money talks and BS walks. If the people stop giving them money, they will change what they do.
This can said about anything. The same with games as well with large publishers. Large publishers used to produce so many bangers, that you had more than you could play.

Nowadays though, it is so far in between from each other. Money talks, so they put out something for the least amount of effort.

So much is spent on a project, that risks are avoided. As a result, very creative projects we once knew scarcely come around from them anymore.

On the other hand, mid level to indie are willing to push the boundaries.

If people keep putting in money, the same thing is gonna happen.
 

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The solution is not using those apps. It's just that a majority of people do. Money talks and BS walks. If the people stop giving them money, they will change what they do.
Ideally there would be a community owned option.
 
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It's just that people are hypocrites. The same people who use Tiktok will go on Twitter to say some anti CCP stuff. You can try to spread awareness of things, but average people don't care. They will consume it like they consume McDonalds or reality TV
 

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It's just that people are hypocrites. The same people who use Tiktok will go on Twitter to say some anti CCP stuff. You can try to spread awareness of things, but average people don't care. They will consume it like they consume McDonalds or reality TV
However we must spread the knowledge of the ongoing class conflict and build organizations to help the people alleviate the worsts of it, while hopefully building a movement for change. Words and spreading awareness have very rarely been enough, it is our job to prove through action that a better world is possible. It is only then that we may be given room to convince someone else.
 
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However we must spread the knowledge of the ongoing class conflict and build organizations to help the people alleviate the worsts of it, while hopefully building a movement for change. Words and spreading awareness have very rarely been enough, it is our job to prove through action that a better world is possible. It is only then that we may be given room to convince someone else.
I don't usually try to convince anyone of something. I just educate them on my perspective. Maybe I did the first thing a few times, but it's never my intent.
 
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