You get to be Isekai'd with three wishes

[Sola-sama]

I would troll you by putting you into a smut fanfic then.

Just because I don't want to be horny anymore doesn't mean I don't enjoy being horny.

 

[Deleted member 68927]

Otherwise, I wish for a candle of invocation which allows me to summon an infinite loop of Djinn that will grant me unlimited wishes.

Pure genius.

 

[Sagacious_Punk]

My assumption was that a being cannot promote you to their equal. Like in a job. Your boss cannot promote you to their equal, unless your boss is the owner themselves.

A nice assumption, but it wasn't mentioned in the OP's post - therefore, it's not "official".

If we go with that limitation only, it still leaves a lot of leeway, as the goddess in the OP's scenario has literally no descriptors attached. So, you can make a counter-assumption, that being that she's God (or the Great Cosmos, or the personification of all existence, or whatever - basically, the top cosmological entity) and you can still wish for the tree O's in some "localized" universe. Sure, you won't be the Great One, but given how you'll have complete control over your (self-)instanced reality, it's the same for practical purposes.

Now, this could be an interesting starting point for a story...

Regards,
Sagacious

 

[HungrySheep]

1. I want to have fun.

That's all I need.

 

[John_Owl]

A nice assumption, but it wasn't mentioned in the OP's post - therefore, it's not "official".

If we go with that limitation only, it still leaves a lot of leeway, as the goddess in the OP's scenario has literally no descriptors attached. So, you can make a counter-assumption, that being that she's God (or the Great Cosmos, or the personification of all existence, or whatever - basically, the top cosmological entity) and you can still wish for the tree O's in some "localized" universe. Sure, you won't be the Great One, but given how you'll have complete control over your (self-)instanced reality, it's the same for practical purposes.

Now, this could be an interesting starting point for a story...

Regards,
Sagacious

You're right that it wasn't mentioned. It was less a limitation of the scenario, and more a limitation of sense. It doesn't make sense to me that a god(dess) granting wishes could grant you more power than they themselves have. Or, for that matter, equal to what they have.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

So you died (no surprise there) and get to meet a goddess. She said she will reincarnate you into another world with three wishes.
My question is. What would be your three wishes?

I would wish for Infinite storage, infinite raw materials, and all knowledge on how to make any weapon from the past, present, and future

regression, storage, rpg system

 

[Stealthy_Enigma]

The ability to grant wishes, healing, and a selfish and personal wish I won't reveal.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

You're right that it wasn't mentioned. It was less a limitation of the scenario, and more a limitation of sense. It doesn't make sense to me that a god(dess) granting wishes could grant you more power than they themselves have. Or, for that matter, equal to what they have.

As a person, I can build a machine that is incomparably stronger or faster or more resilient, or - as most recent developments seem to show - eventually smarter than me.
So, am I greater than a god or what?

 

[John_Owl]

As a person, I can build a machine that is incomparably stronger or faster or more resilient, or - as most recent developments seem to show - eventually smarter than me.
So, am I greater than a god or what?

it's incomparable. It still follows the laws of physics. you're building a machine. a god granting a person powers greater than the god themselves, well... conservation of energy would mean that energy has to come from somewhere. you can't run the machine for a week on a day of fuel. and magic, while fiction, is generally agreed to be a form of energy. precisely how it works may change, but it IS still a fundamental force that must follow the laws of the world.

or, another way to look at it... Let's say your boss. can your manager promote you to be his boss? Can a mid level manager promote a baseline floor worker to upper management? no. the best he could do reasonably would be to promote you to be his equal, and even that would be sketch in most cases.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

conservation of energy would mean that energy has to come from somewhere.

But a god is not physics. I may fight you if you say otherwise.
It may not necessarily even be logic. Or if logic, it will not take the same premises you would.

or, another way to look at it... Let's say your boss. can your manager promote you to be his boss? Can a mid level manager promote a baseline floor worker to upper management? no. the best he could do reasonably would be to promote you to be his equal, and even that would be sketch in most cases.

it really follows the previous argument.
Say my boss wants to make me an equal - then he/she could transfer half his/her shares to me (can you transfer them? Would it be considered insider trading? Nah, that's just transfer of property. Otherwise inheritance wouldn't work). Basically conservation of something, but under less constrained rules.

 

[John_Owl]

But a god is not physics. I may fight you if you say otherwise.
It may not necessarily even be logic. Or if logic, it will not take the same premises you would.

You are correct that in matters of fiction, things follow any rules laid out. logic or not. As such, I feel both of our statements are valid, as OP didn't outline specifics.

it really follows the previous argument.
Say my boss wants to make me an equal - then he/she could transfer half his/her shares to me (can you transfer them? Would it be considered insider trading? Nah, that's just transfer of property. Otherwise inheritance wouldn't work). Basically conservation of something, but under less constrained rules.

Boss, not shareholder I said. Meaning manager. not owner. a department manager likely won't own shares in their company (they may, but that's a separate matter).

 

[ThrillingHuman]

Boss, not shareholder I said. Meaning manager. not owner. a department manager likely won't own shares in their company (they may, but that's a separate matter).

then it's an incorrect comparison. A god is not a middle manager

 

[Sagacious_Punk]

I like how this harmless thread escalated into a full-blown discussion of ontology, philosophy, fundamental physics, and semantics.

Shame that I'm too tired atm to contribute.

If I have to distill my two-cents thesis down to a single sentence: This is basically one (not all) of the central differences between science fiction and fantasy. In sci-fi, no matter how imaginative or outlandish, things have to be inferred and extrapolated from our consensual reality, and have to follow a strong internal logic of their own; while in fantasy, it's all set dressing - something is true because it's said to be true (aka fantasy is self-referential).

 

[CubicleHermit]

then it's an incorrect comparison. A god is not a middle manager

If you're using an Abrahamic god, well, yeah, but then there's only one of them. Or one of them per universe or something.

A lot depends on the cosmology; it's pretty easy to interpret some of the lesser deities of Greek and Roman mythology where they were roughly that. For that matter, while I have no idea how much the modern-fiction "Holy Bureaucracy" represents actual Chinese myth, I'm pretty sure I've read things where there were gods who were literally middle managers.

The cosmology in my WIP is not far removed from old-edition D&D/AD&D and some of the gods used to be people. Gods in that world - at least the ones who interact with people in any sense - definitely can't make someone a god directly in any kind of permanent way. There are also some extremely powerful beings who have to work to avoid acquiring worshipers because they don't want god-related responsibilities.