Where would you rather live in? A society ruled by the weak or the strong.

[Western42]

I am planning on writing a new story and, as you have probably already guessed, it is about a clash of two societies.

The "weak" society, Borohine, is a society that is ruled by the weak, which means that, even if you are stronger than the leaders, you have to listen to them. Their society is mostly run off of slavery and they would rather solve their problems diplomatically rather than with violence.

The "strong" society, Ninetrine, is a society ruled by the strong. Survival of the fittest where the strong rule over the weak. They are not dependent on slavery for their economy and solve their problems through violence and wars, which is how they get most of their resources. Anyone can be a ruler as long as they are strong and not a coward.

Now that that is all explained, which would you rather live in? Ninetrine, or Borohine?

 

[ModernGold7ne]

if Borohine is weak then how did they manage to make a society reliant on slaves?

 

[CL]

I am planning on writing a new story and, as you have probably already guessed, it is about a clash of two societies.

The "weak" society, Borohine, is a society that is ruled by the weak, which means that, even if you are stronger than the leaders, you have to listen to them. Their society is mostly run off of slavery and they would rather solve their problems diplomatically rather than with violence.

The "strong" society, Ninetrine, is a society ruled by the strong. Survival of the fittest where the strong rule over the weak. They are not dependent on slavery for their economy and solve their problems through violence and wars, which is how they get most of their resources. Anyone can be a ruler as long as they are strong and not a coward.

Now that that is all explained, which would you rather live in? Ninetrine, or Borohine?

Not sure why, but this reminds me of the difference between Athenians and Spartans.

if Borohine is weak then how did they manage to make a society reliant on slaves?

"Weak" is relative here towards the virtual term of the word.

 

[Mellohwa]

"Weak" is relative here towards the virtual term of the word.

I googled what the "virtual term" means, but I still don't understand what you meant. ;-;

 

[Maze_Runner]

I would say Borohine? I mean it sounds better than wars and fighting all the time

 

[LABmaiL]

I feel like a society ruled purely by the weak would result in quite petty, revenge-focused rulings. For the strong, however, they'd just be brutish. It's a case of a bunch of snakes or a lion. I'd rather have somebody openly dislike me rather than stab me in the back.

 

[CL]

I googled what the "virtual term" means, but I still don't understand what you meant. ;-;

vir·tu·al : "almost or nearly as described, but not completely or according to strict definition."

So when I said "virtual term", I meant that "weak" shouldn't be taken literally. A "weak" nation can still enslave people and topple "strong" nations.

 

[Irl_Rat]

Not sure why, but this reminds me of the difference between Athenians and Spartans.

The Athenians did win the dick measuring contest against the Spartan phalanx on occasions, though this was primarily due to better morale, numbers, and logistics. Though in terms of raw military might, both were roughly equal. While Sparta was stronger in a straight slug out, Athens was far better at using light troops. Something along the lines of "can't stab me if I refuse to fight in melee, Spartoid."

"Weak" is relative here towards the virtual term of the word.

So when I said "virtual term", I meant that "weak" shouldn't be taken literally. A "weak" nation can still enslave people.

Ah, Belgian Congo incident.

Though it's really odd that the strong nation doesn't have slaves. If they're busy looting and fighting it would be natural for them to capture laborers(an actual resource). And then have said laborers do things that they're too busy to do. In fact a society that depends more on diplomacy and negotiation would have more of a economic slavery(serfdom and debt laborers) while the hyper militaristic society would do the more traditional captured foreigners as property.

 

[Mellohwa]

vir·tu·al : "almost or nearly as described, but not completely or according to strict definition."

So when I said "virtual term", I meant that "weak" shouldn't be taken literally. A "weak" nation can still enslave people and topple "strong" nations.

Ooh I see, thank you for the explanation

 

[NotaNuffian]

Dude, if I am strong enough to fight against Borohine, I will join Ninetrine because I know that I will not flourish in Borohine.

 

[Cipiteca396]

is a society that is ruled by the weak, which means that, even if you are stronger than the leaders, you have to listen to them.

Okay, but how do they actually rule? Do they literally measure your biceps and say, "Well, this is too strong. You can't be king." What is the actual qualification for leadership? Because it seriously changes the nature of the nation.

society is mostly run off of slavery

Define slavery? How do you keep these people in shackles without brute force? Are they indentured servants? Bloodline based? Theocracy?

 

[NotaNuffian]

I think the OP missed a chance in asking another question, what happens when you, a person who is stronger than Borohine's peak but weaker than Ninetrine's average, are to choose a spot to live?

Because of your unique circumstances, you are either silenced by red tapes in the former nation while curbstomped by the latter's jungle law.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

There is insufficient data to answer this question.

 

[EternalSunset0]

Boro. I hate physical, brutish conflicts. And I hate the might is right concept. Making your way to the top and staying there through talks and connections (underhanded or otherwise) feels better.

On the other hand, I don't know how slavery would be possible in that society. Unless you meant something else besides what I have in mind.

 

[War_and_Poetry]

the hyper militaristic society would do the more traditional captured foreigners as property.

Spear-won brides anyone?

 

[CupcakeNinja]

I am planning on writing a new story and, as you have probably already guessed, it is about a clash of two societies.

The "weak" society, Borohine, is a society that is ruled by the weak, which means that, even if you are stronger than the leaders, you have to listen to them. Their society is mostly run off of slavery and they would rather solve their problems diplomatically rather than with violence.

The "strong" society, Ninetrine, is a society ruled by the strong. Survival of the fittest where the strong rule over the weak. They are not dependent on slavery for their economy and solve their problems through violence and wars, which is how they get most of their resources. Anyone can be a ruler as long as they are strong and not a coward.

Now that that is all explained, which would you rather live in? Ninetrine, or Borohine?

The weak will just give way to the strong, that's how you get puppet kings. But if that somehow doesnt happen, I would never want a weak ruler. That's just going to invite more danger from other nations.

There is comfort in knowing a competent leader is at the helm

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

I am planning on writing a new story and, as you have probably already guessed, it is about a clash of two societies.

The "weak" society, Borohine, is a society that is ruled by the weak, which means that, even if you are stronger than the leaders, you have to listen to them. Their society is mostly run off of slavery and they would rather solve their problems diplomatically rather than with violence.

The "strong" society, Ninetrine, is a society ruled by the strong. Survival of the fittest where the strong rule over the weak. They are not dependent on slavery for their economy and solve their problems through violence and wars, which is how they get most of their resources. Anyone can be a ruler as long as they are strong and not a coward.

Now that that is all explained, which would you rather live in? Ninetrine, or Borohine?

Ninetrine easily, it’s hierarchal it’s religious, it’s masculine, it’s based. It’s what I want, Borohine is literally a prior rendition of liberalism from like 1820 or whatever and Ninetrine is the claissical monarchy

 

[N0xiety]

Depends on how the 'weak' is defined. I assume your novel won't have any magical/cultivation powers. If so, i would go with Borohine so long as my birth isn't gonna be into a slave family.

If we are talking about a world with magical/cultivation powers etc., personal power difference can be so big i don't think the 'weak' rule can even be maintained. It doesn't matter if people are indoctrinated from birth to live in that kinda culture, that can't keep every strong person in check. It only takes a single ambitious person with immense power, the collapse would be an eventuality for the strong to take their rightful place to rule. At best, the weak ruler would be a puppet to the strong who doesn't want to deal with administrative work.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

I am planning on writing a new story and, as you have probably already guessed, it is about a clash of two societies.

The "weak" society, Borohine, is a society that is ruled by the weak, which means that, even if you are stronger than the leaders, you have to listen to them. Their society is mostly run off of slavery and they would rather solve their problems diplomatically rather than with violence.

The "strong" society, Ninetrine, is a society ruled by the strong. Survival of the fittest where the strong rule over the weak. They are not dependent on slavery for their economy and solve their problems through violence and wars, which is how they get most of their resources. Anyone can be a ruler as long as they are strong and not a coward.

Now that that is all explained, which would you rather live in? Ninetrine, or Borohine?

The first one is basically an average democracy. If it's not too far into its history, then I'd join.
The second one is a bizarre thing that I can't imagine functioning properly.

 

[Western42]

The Athenians did win the dick measuring contest against the Spartan phalanx on occasions, though this was primarily due to better morale, numbers, and logistics. Though in terms of raw military might, both were roughly equal. While Sparta was stronger in a straight slug out, Athens was far better at using light troops. Something along the lines of "can't stab me if I refuse to fight in melee, Spartoid."


Ah, Belgian Congo incident.

Though it's really odd that the strong nation doesn't have slaves. If they're busy looting and fighting it would be natural for them to capture laborers(an actual resource). And then have said laborers do things that they're too busy to do. In fact a society that depends more on diplomacy and negotiation would have more of a economic slavery(serfdom and debt laborers) while the hyper militaristic society would do the more traditional captured foreigners as property.

They do have slaves but, since they fight a lot, they'd rather use the weak people as soldiers and their prisoners as slaves.

Okay, but how do they actually rule? Do they literally measure your biceps and say, "Well, this is too strong. You can't be king." What is the actual qualification for leadership? Because it seriously changes the nature of the nation.

Define slavery? How do you keep these people in shackles without brute force? Are they indentured servants? Bloodline based? Theocracy?

Slavery as in forced labor and treated badly. More like slaves-slaves then the slaves of the Medieval times.