What's a hill you 100% die on? (Please refrain from political subjects)

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ShrimpShady

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Now I didn't say it was fully objective, but that there are things that are objectively beautiful and ugly. And things can get more beautiful or ugly infinitely.
The subjective part is how we recognize it.
I believe you. I've seen some really ugly babies, like damn.

But I guess I can concede that from a biological point of view, things like death, horrific disfigurement, and disease naturally set off alarm bells in the brain :blob_hmm:

I know you will say I can't tell what is made for money and what is not. It is what it is.
You're right, that's exactly what I would've said :blobthumbsup:
 

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Rule # 1 There is no such thing as an objective standard.
Rule # 2 If a statement claims an objective standard refer to rule # 1


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Now this is even more baffling :blob_unsure:

But pursuing it too far would lead me to Jordan Peterson levels of "what exactly do you mean by..."

So I'll just say beauty is subjective because what's conceived as beautiful differs throughout cultures and time periods, and any attempt to posit a certain culture's idea of beauty as the correct one is a subjective judgement.
I like the idea of beauty being objective but where and how we perceive beauty to be subjective. Defining beauty as something pleasing to the heart and mind in tandem. A sight can be objectively beautiful but you need to perceive it properly to enjoy the fullness of the beauty. IE, being at the perfect spot for a photo, someone's good side(physically or personality wise), or how the lighting hits at one specific moment.
I believe you. I've seen some really ugly babies, like damn.
 

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I like the idea of beauty being objective but where and how we perceive beauty to be subjective. Defining beauty as something pleasing to the heart and mind in tandem. A sight can be objectively beautiful but you need to perceive it properly to enjoy the fullness of the beauty. IE, being at the perfect spot for a photo, someone's good side(physically or personality wise), or how the lighting hits at one specific moment.

I understand.

Even the ugly baby is beautiful if it was mine.

But for real, that's a wonderful way of seeing things :blobthumbsup:
 

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Experimental or niche =\= automatically good. I enjoy Death Grips, it is experimental and so on, but no way in hell it is better than, for example, Mobb Deep or Rakim. I should add that playing experimental or niche music doesn't make a band or musician bad either.
No clue who Death Grips is, but Mobb Deep will always be my favorite Rap Group. Them and Biggie Smalls and Big L specifically. Coincidentally, these three were also my first.

Which leads me to the next hill I can die on I guess.

2Pac/Tupac Shakur isn't that special. He has some good songs....but Biggie Smalls blows his West Coast ass out of the water in all ways.
, honestly didn't read it all
Wasn't even that long. Them short attentions spans are problematic.
 

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Wasn't even that long. Them short attentions spans are problematic.
Since I both agree, at least partially, and can't talk about it on forums, I saw no reason to read it all. I'm sorry mate, I won't PM you to say how right you are, and how sorry I am that rules on SHF prohibits politics. :blob_hmph:
 

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Since I both agree, at least partially, and can't talk about it on forums, I saw no reason to read it all. I'm sorry mate, I won't PM you to say how right you are, and how sorry I am that rules on SHF prohibits politics. :blob_hmph:
Bruh, you turned into a Karen nagging management everytime someone breaks the rules.
 

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I think you can, so we can stop this conversation here. It is a fundamental difference in approach that won't let us have a proper discussion.

I disagree. Degradation has started long before TikTok, while streaming has nothing to do with low attention span, since it was very different back then. Streaming changed fairly recently, when it was still new it was mostly about games, and streamers were very different as well. There were no girls that streamed to promote onlyfans, no guys that would silently watch videos while they eat, and so on.
No, I'm talking about streaming TV and movies on demand. That definitely shortened attention spans, then tiktok came in and kicked everything into high gear.
 

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No, I'm talking about streaming TV and movies on demand. That definitely shortened attention spans, then tiktok came in and kicked everything into high gear.
Oh, sorry for misunderstanding. In case you are right, I think it is one more factor that affected it instead of being the sole one.
 

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No prince, it shows that you take me not breaking rules that you respect for granted.
No, you see religion and politics is banned to stop arguments from getting out of hand. If they aren't going crazy then there isn't much reason to censor it.
NSFW is banned for advertising reasons. If this site allowed NSFW, I would not be here.
 

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No, you see religion and politics is banned to stop arguments from getting out of hand. If they aren't going crazy then there isn't much reason to censor it.
NSFW is banned for advertising reasons. If this site allowed NSFW, I would not be here.
I don't care about reason why they are banned, the fact of the matter they are banned. There is no addition in the rules that say "As long as religious or political discussion doesn't go out of hand it's ok."

The rule is simple. Threads and posts related to religion and politics are banned. The topic is too volatile. The topic is too volatile doesn't matter in the context, because it doesn't say "As long as religious or political discussion doesn't go out of hand it's ok." And there's no two ways of reading this rule. You can argue with me as much as you want, I will simply report stuff, and the one who decides is Tony. If it wasn't deleted, it means Tony didn't think it broke the rule, simple as.

If you want to change anything, go ask Tony.

I am tired of people following rules arbitrarily, and then picking a fault with me. If you can't comprehend that my stance on those rules have changed, that I agree with Tony now, and I don't want to see it on the main forum abymore, I can't do much.

I can only say, people sour my mood way more than you think, you included. But somehow you all don't care. I've said it multiple times, I'm not smart, and try to make main site, and forums a better place with my meager brains. So what do I get after reporting over 200 translations, and trying to follow the rules on forums? "Uuuh, you don't let me break rules that I want to break!?"

You think I fish for compliments here, want a statue erected or anything by constantly mentioning my 'campaign' against translations? No. I mention it to tell one simple thing. I spend my time that could've been spent on writing, exercising, talking with friends or family to make this place better. Yeah, it's not much, I know. However, after offering at least this little something I get spat on my face in return. Why? Because I try to keep my unbiased approach intact, and try to keep myself from breaking my own morlas. I might as well go and do things that make me happy and leave SHF myself. Simple as.
 

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I don't care about reason why they are banned, the fact of the matter they are banned. There is no addition in the rules that say "As long as religious or political discussion doesn't go out of hand it's ok."

The rule is simple. Threads and posts related to religion and politics are banned. The topic is too volatile. The topic is too volatile doesn't matter in the context, because it doesn't say "As long as religious or political discussion doesn't go out of hand it's ok." And there's no two ways of reading this rule. You can argue with me as much as you want, I will simply report stuff, and the one who decides is Tony. If it wasn't deleted, it means Tony didn't think it broke the rule, simple as.

If you want to change anything, go ask Tony.

I am tired of people following rules arbitrarily, and then picking a fault with me. If you can't comprehend that my stance on those rules have changed, that I agree with Tony now, and I don't want to see it on the main forum abymore, I can't do much.

I can only say, people sour my mood way more than you think, you included. But somehow you all don't care. I've said it multiple times, I'm not smart, and try to make main site, and forums a better place with my meager brains. So what do I get after reporting over 200 translations, and trying to follow the rules on forums? "Uuuh, you don't let me break rules that I want to break!?"

You think I fish for compliments here, want a statue erected or anything by constantly mentioning my 'campaign' against translations? No. I mention it to tell one simple thing. I spend my time that could've been spent on writing, exercising, talking with friends or family to make this place better. Yeah, it's not much, I know. However, after offering at least this little something I get spat on my face in return. Why? Because I try to keep my unbiased approach intact, and try to keep myself from breaking my own morlas. I might as well go and do things that make me happy and leave SHF myself. Simple as.
This is my hill I'm willing to die on. I've been posting like this for over two years.
What I'm hearing from you is that I've been making this place worse the entire time. Well, maybe i should just get banned or leave, after all that would be an improvement wouldn't it?
 
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