The Pressure Of Marriage.

Dark_Phoenix_Zaetyk

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Currently trying to get engaged to my girlfriend at the moment and a lot of the issues involve the economy being so bad that very few people can financially have children or even share a home as many people are staying with their parents till 30 due to housing costs. Traditional weddings cost a small fortune and untraditional weddings still cost a pretty penny depending on what you define that as. There's also the sad state of the dating scene where people consider either themselves or other people to be completely undatable/unmarriable for various reasons. Other people can't date, let alone marry, because they are so busy working that they don't have the time or energy to put into a relationship. Marriage is also seen by a lot of men as evil due to how the court system leans toward the wife's side during divorce and would rather not risk it. These are just a few things that I have noticed.
True.... that's why now you need to be financially stable to be able to take care of your partner either in marriage or committed relationship, trying to bring children in the equation with the stable life is killing your self especially now in the world.
Hahah, I got two jobs, a full time one and a freelance.
The full time one already drained me on my weekdays, and the freelance one drained me of my weekends.

If I don't take these two jobs, I can't survive because living isn't even enjoyable but it's fucking expensive.
Do I want to get married? The answer is yes. I want someone to take care of me, and I would love to take care of someone.
The problem is stuff are bery expensive, be it on financial or temporal.
Same,i want some to take care of me and love me but the situation now is unlucky card for me,maybe i will be lucky in my 30.
 

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Honestly? I think the primary reason is simply that we have way too much stuff to do today.
Birth rates and marriage falls when work and/or internet culture takes over. We're constantly bombarded with information and things to do to the point where adding even more just seems impossible.
 

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Honestly? I think the primary reason is simply that we have way too much stuff to do today.
Birth rates and marriage falls when work and/or internet culture takes over. We're constantly bombarded with information and things to do to the point where adding even more just seems impossible.
I totally agree with you.
 

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I'm 32, I'm not married because she lives in Korea and I in America and I need to convince her parents and Grandparents after I move there.
 

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Honestly? I think the primary reason is simply that we have way too much stuff to do today.
Birth rates and marriage falls when work and/or internet culture takes over. We're constantly bombarded with information and things to do to the point where adding even more just seems impossible.
Yeah. When I was a young child, there were still some local communal spaces where people regularly gathered. Like dance scenes frequented by whole families, or workshop spaces where people were productive together. They were safe spaces for young people to date, since they were multi-generational and everyones adults were still around and quietly keeping their eye on things. At least where I am, those spaces started to disappear at some point.

They are starting to come back now, like Makerspace, but they're located centrally, whereas I used to have them a short walk from my house. People have to go out of their way to go there, and with social media around, people usually don't bother.

This is probably even worse in America lol. Y'all seem to have quite the problem with urban sprawl and long distances by car to even the nearest supermarket.
 

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Saw other day an american dude won 200m in lottery and his divorce wife of 5 months wants a share....or that's what i saw on some sources.

?Yeah i can see after saying this no one will bring marriage to you again.
Boomers gave us this poison pill called "no fault divorce" For some awful reason that lead to family courts where people don't have their constitutional rights. Before that, making a vow "til death do us part" meant that. So the only way to get a divorce was infidelity. After listening to many tales of how people were ruined by their spouses from messy breaking of families it makes it seem too risky. No one can hurt you like someone you thought loved you.
 

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Well, i can't relate... i already have a wife and a kid.
Why is Gen Z or millennials not getting married at all? selfishness, some just want to think about themselves and what they want. If you think marriage is a nightmare, I think that is what you should say to your mom; she will realise that is a bad idea for you to get married even if you fall in love. If that mindset is still there, it's over.

Is about selfishness because marriage is for forming a family and with that, yourself kind of fades into the background and the family goes on top; kids become the central part and you live for them, not yourself. Marriage is not for you to be happy but is not for suffering; it is to form a family; anything other than that is a 99% chance of divorce, so if you are not prepared to stop thinking about yourself, don't marry.

Not going to write an essay about it, but that is my opinion.
^ this. It's selfish to not get married. But that's okay. It's perfectly fine to be selfish as long as it's not harming anyone else. And by not getting married, you're actively not hurting someone. If you don't want to be married but you get married anyway, it's only going to cause pain.
Don't even get me started on the housing market. That's a whole 'nother can of worms. Why aren't people getting married and having kids? Because it's expensive as fuck. That's why.
My wife and I had a courthouse ceremony. Literally us standing in front of receptionist. She was our witness, I was our officiator (it's legal in my state for one of the people getting married to be their own officiator).

As for housing, as you mentioned, we scrimped and saved and bought a cheap plot of land. Saved more and had a private well dug and electric ran to it. Then we bought a cheap camper and that's out current living situation. Is it glamorous? Absolutely not. But we own the land and our house, even if it is a camper. We recently upgraded. And yeah, I'd rather have an actual house. But that's our next step - building the house. And it's true that this won't work for everyone - not everyone wants to live in a camper, and a lot of people would rather be in town than half an hour away. But it works for us.
 

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What are the reasons most later millennials and Gen Z are not getting married at all?,i'm 27 but the word marriage is a distance nightmare to me.I don't even visit home because i get attacked with the marriage scheme everywhere.....if my mom wants grandkids that's my two siblings work now, it's sad but a pretty normal thing for me.
You might not like the idea of getting married, but that doesn't mean 'most' millennials/GenZers aren't getting married, or at least significantly fewer than in the past. US marriage rates are down from just under 2.5 million in 1990 to around 1.9 million in 2022 (source: Statistica) with median marriage age being around 28 for women, 30 for men--ie, Gen Z--and second marriages might be dragging that age number up a bit. So, marriage is a little down but hardly out. Maybe it's not a generational thing, and just a 'you' thing.

Which is cool, but marriage as an institution's also cool, when done with the right person for the right reasons.
 

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It's just not worth it anymore, at least in America. People from other countries still get married and have lots of kids.
 

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It's just not worth it anymore, at least in America. People from other countries still get married and have lots of kids.
They actually don't, the drop in birthrates a strangely global thing. Look at Norway for example. They have a good economy, lots of social security services, paid parental leave, and economic incentives for new parents. They still have a very low increase in birth rates, at 11.151 births per 1000 people compared to 12.009 births per 1000 people in America, per year.

I think I read somewhere that they do have a higher rate of marriage than USA, but I don't think I've read anything about their divorce rates.
 
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Marrying for tax benefits is a legitimate thing, and the tax cut it gives you is pretty chunky... so If I cant find someone Im literally going to ask one of my bros :>
Yeah, a lot of people do that too. Almost made a pact with my best friend that we would be fake gay for tax benefits if we weren't in relationships by 30.
 

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They actually don't, it's a global thing. Look at Norway for example. They have a good economy, lots of social security services, paid parental leave, and economic incentives for new parents. They still have a very low increase in birth rates, at 11.151 births per 1000 people compared to 12.009 births per 1000 people in America.

I think I read somewhere that they do have a higher rate of marriage than USA, but I don't think I've read anything about their divorce rates.
Well, here in the third world, people are having 2-3 kids on average.
 
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