Since use of AI is a hot topic right now, I would like to pour some oil into it.

[Indicterra]

Using of AI is ofcourse commonly looked down on, but from earlier conversations to my interest, it seems that different people have different level of what they think acceptable usage of AI.


So here is list of level of usage of AI or reliance on it per say,


According to on what level it's stop being okay.


Level 1 : Absolutely No use of AI or anything related with AI


Level 2: Use of AI for simple spelling correction and fixing grammar error on lower level (Grammarly etc)

(I would like to add a level 2.5, where you use AI like chat gpt to fix grammars, (strictly nothing more)


Level 3: Using AI for Purely reasearch purposes and information gathering on things you have no knowledge about, but want to understand it.(using AI like GPT to give you a summary or things you need know regarding any topic )


Level 4: Using AI's generate simple things like Name's for characters and skills and other things etc


Level 5: Using AI to generate much bigger things, like dialogues or a description.


Level 6: Using AI to Rephrase bigger chunks of the story you written.


Level 7: Using AI to get an Idea of what additional details and descriptions can be to enhance the writing quality (Meaning after you get an idea, you extensively edit it with your own words to make it yours)


Level 8: Using AI to add additional details and descriptions to enhance the writing quality (You don't edit it, leave it as what AI gave you)


level 9: A combination of 6 and 9, where you allow AI to Rephrase and add additional details, so the story might be yours but the words and style aren't


Level 10: You give maximum details to AI to generate an story, with last bit of editing of your own


Level 11: You give minimal details and let AI write it, and leave it as it is



Level 12: you just ask for random stories after giving some ideas

 

[Corty]

Level 4 is where I draw the line.

Level 5 and up becomes the same as AI uses the same phrases over and over and over. Every scene becomes a copy of the previous one with repetition so noticeable only a robot would miss it.

 

[JayMark]

I don't consider the spell checker in M Word to be AI, so I would put myself at 1. I don't consider google searches and Wikipedia to be using AI. I used to have 2000 books but can't go back to that. Unless you want me to go back to using a typewriter to qualify I consider myself at 1. With a typewriter I wouldn't be able to publish online.

I'm using cheap / free AI arts for bad covers. I want to break from that and make my own covers or hire someone but I have money problems.

 

[Indicterra]

. I don't consider google searches and Wikipedia to be using AI

Ofcourse it's isn't, what I meant of using AI to give you a summary or things you need know regarding any topic

 

[Cardon]

Level 3 is already too far, but in a 'you only have yourself to blame' way when the AI spits out cool facts like 'your CPU is made out of bees'

 

[MarekSusicky]

I don't consider google searches AI

Google uses AI to interpret search queries since... Very long time :) So, anyone using most translators, google search or something like that is using an AI. Just not generative AI.

 

[JayMark]

Ofcourse it's isn't, what I meant of using AI to give you a summary or things you need know regarding any topic

Back in my day we used typewriters. Let me tell you. We had to draft everything by hand with pencil and paper. A major rewrite meant you had to do it again. Shifting scenes meant you had to do it again. Everything had to be outlined to prevent that. By the time we were done, we had callouses andcramped fingers. We had to use a pencil to fix typos. Then, when that was done, we pulled out the one hundred pound type writer. The ink band needed to be installed perfectly or you'd have to spend five hours cleaning the machine. It took about an two hour to calibrated to make sure it was properly oiled and you'd have to type three practice pages to make sure it moved properly. Then when you wrote, you prayed you get through a page. A typo, start over, an ink smudge, start over, finger slipped, start over, one mistake toward the end of the page and ten dollars worth of ink band and hours of time was finished. Then, after months of this torture, we sent the manuscript out and the publishing house people look at the envelope and say, "who dis nobody," then throw it in the furnace that powers their heating system.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Honestly this topic is so worn out recently. I'm tired of ai conversations all of the time, even though I know it's not gonna be possible.

I stopped using ai, but I don't care what others do with ai. They can't replace me as a writer yet, so it's not my problem.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Use 2 a lot, never used 3. 4 is a weird one. I used fantasynamegenerators.com, however, I've never copy pasted names as is. I would alter the name a little bit, mix up names and surnames, I would routinely go to "behind the name\surname" sites before using them, and so on. So I used that site to give me ideas and refresh my memory rather than doing work for me.

 

[CodeCrisis]

I don't use any of them, at least not by those descriptors. However, I would deem level four as the cut off point. Writing should be done entirely by a human. Using AI to help should be kept as minimally as possible, like spellcheck or helping you come up with new characters. Of course, you need to think and write it for yourself first, as letting AI dictate your story stops it from being your story.

 

[beast_regards]

Level 3: Using AI for Purely reasearch purposes and information gathering on things you have no knowledge about, but want to understand it.(using AI like GPT to give you a summary or things you need know regarding any topic )

This is already beyond the technical limitation of the technology.

To do this, it would require the machine to understand what you are asking, but it can not. It just spits random assortment of words that are the most probable reaction.

 

[MarekSusicky]

This is already beyond the technical limitation of the technology.

To do this, it would require the machine to understand what you are asking, but it can not. It just spits random assortment of words that are the most probable reaction.

It’s not perfect, but it does the heavy lifting for you, and the deep research can be really useful and mostly correct. It all depends on how thorough you need the response to be. Some people are fine with TikTok/YouTube summary by Akash from Mumbai, others trust a decent-looking blog post, some go with Wikipedia, but even that isn't a single source of truth. Maybe you need every claim backed by peer-reviewed studies.

 

[beast_regards]

It’s not perfect, but it does the heavy lifting for you, and the deep research can be really useful and mostly correct. It all depends on how thorough you need the response to be. Some people are fine with TikTok/YouTube summary by Akash from Mumbai, others trust a decent-looking blog post, some go with Wikipedia, but even that isn't a single source of truth. Maybe you need every claim backed by peer-reviewed studies.

Oh...

Did AI find out who the current pope is?

Last time, it thought it is black lesbian woman, which ...

... I admit, could be an immense source of inspiration for alternate universe stories.

 

[ArlindoFrancisco]

This is already beyond the technical limitation of the technology.

To do this, it would require the machine to understand what you are asking, but it can not. It just spits random assortment of words that are the most probable reaction.

What he is saying is, if you don't know anything about the M16, it will give you the information in a simple way or if you want to go deeper it will do that.

 

[MarekSusicky]

Did AI find out who the current pope is?

There are AIs with cut-offs and no online search capabilities, but if you use the ones searching, they are way better about current events.

I asked: Search who is the pope and what he did the last 3 months in 50 words
Answer:
Pope Francis, 88, has been hospitalized since February 14, 2025, due to double pneumonia. His condition has stabilized, and he continues to work from his hospital bed. Prior to his hospitalization, he inaugurated the 2025 Jubilee by opening the Holy Door of St. Peter's Basilica on December 24, 2024. Despite his illness, he has maintained communication with the faithful, expressing gratitude for their prayers and encouraging hope.

It searched Reuters, AP news, Vatican news, uisg... and it looked legit, so I can trust the info with certain degree.

 

[beast_regards]

What he is saying is, if you don't know anything about the M16, it will give you the information in a simple way or if you want to go deeper it will do that.

I have doubts that any information the ChatGPT could provide would be factually correct, but it might be a personal peeve of mine.

People do think of AI like it was Tony Stark's robot butler, but it is more like a randomness generator

Companies running the AI software have to employ actual people to fact check whatever the AI spouts.

It searched Reuters, AP news, Vatican news, uisg... and it looked legit, so I can trust the info with certain degree.

That's surprisingly accurate for the usual nonsense the AI does.

In my opinion, the "AI" is more useful for the visual art, pictures, as the mechanism works much better for arranging pixels than putting meaning behind words ...

...though even then, the "AI" generated pictures would still need retouch by the actual artist should it be ever used by any actual professional capacity, and even then, anything that requires consistency is beyond the AI capabilities and it is faster to be done by the actual artist.

Good enough for us amateurs though.

 

[l8rose]

I always skip the AI blurb on Google searches, it rarely answers my question in a way that makes sense to me.

I'd be at level 2 for the most part.

That being said, I have used ProWritingAid's function to rewrite a sentence with proper grammar as I tend to write things in a passive tone (my school sucked for teaching proper English). So somewhere between a 2 and 6 but without the in-between stuff.

 

[minacia]

Why don't people get AI to write reviews for their stories?

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Why don't people get AI to write reviews for their stories?

Because AI cannot be critical, unless forced to by a very narrow prompt. AI reviews are always either positive or gibberish (or positive gibberish). It won't point out flaws (well, at least one of them WILL if asked but it sugar coats it and points out positives more heavily - I saw a guy who does reviews for a living ask an AI to review a movie in his style; if it weren't for the fact that the AI was NEVER negative about anything, and he has a tendency to be completely honest on good and bad stuff, it was impossible to tell the reviews apart based on style and content alone)

 

[Representing_Tromba]

I would call it around level 2 or level 2.5 because Grammarly has significantly gone downhill so it isn't really that helpful in the first place. Level 3 doesn't really work because of the amount of misinformation.