[POLL] Which type of villain is more up to your alley?

Which type of villain is more up to your alley?

  • The straight-up evil. (Sauron, Palpatine, Voldemort)

    Votes: 19 35.2%
  • The complex evil. (Gollum, Thanos, Hans Landa)

    Votes: 35 64.8%

  • Total voters
    54

Jessie_Emilyn

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A good villain to me is one that I could have the story from their perspective and still enjoy it so I guess that means more complex and full characters. The kind of character that isn't just some racist or something but actually has pain and fears, joys and goals, the idea even they have someone they care about even if it is just a loyal cat that they just suddenly break away from their villain self to dote on. I want a character that feels natural while reaching for a goal that is evil. I want them to have good reasoning not just "I am going to solve this problem by killing everyone", I want to actually think "They kind of had a good point" even if they went about it wrong. A good villain is still a person (unless it is some eldritch being or force of nature). Over the top evil and cruel can have a place but it makes a weaker villain and more one I want to see dead, not one I want defeated but to have a chance to become something more or rise up again.

Good villains are just like any other good character, they have something appealing about them. Sometimes that appealing thing is just seeing them beaten but you know they are technically right or not breaking the law, you just support the hero in their quest over the villain. It is the same reason so many white knight over the top good characters are so boring, you need more depth that someone trying to save the world.
 

TroubleFait

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I want to actually think "They kind of had a good point" even if they went about it wrong.
On this note, it's a but sad that so many complex villains have a good point but go about it wrong. I mean, my favourite villain of all times follows this pattern, but often the writers have the villain make valid point and yet be stupid evil just so he gets to be the villain.

Like, suddenly for no reason the villains kicks a dog or betray their underlings or kills a whole neighbourhood just because.

It's so cheap.
 

Thraben

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Look all I'm saying is that if you don't wear your Kittensquishers Inc. badge on the front of your uniform, there's no way you'll be making that promotion, bub.
 
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