Need Constructive or Yeti Style Criticism Part 2

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@greyblob Ya left me hanging here in suspense! :blob_teary:
for the edits.. i havent been on my pc much and quoting on phone is a pain..

regarding the openning.. im not really sure brother. its tricky. naked in the forest is the cliche. i consider origin stories a type of prologue. its an isekai novel. it starts when they are isekai'd. dunno what ch2 looks like so i cant give any thoughts on that
 

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for the edits.. i havent been on my pc much and quoting on phone is a pain..
Take your time! :blob_sir: I meant more for the question.:blob_aww:

regarding the openning.. im not really sure brother. its tricky. naked in the forest is the cliche. i consider origin stories a type of prologue. its an isekai novel. it starts when they are isekai'd. dunno what ch2 looks like so i cant give any thoughts on that
She is basically teleported in front of the goddess who grants her power. So, it was the start of the Iseka. I guess? This is the first time I have written Iseka. I'm currently writing another, too, but that one chapter 1 is also basically the origin. Idk. Haha. Does getting crushed by metal beams at work after being screwed by your boss on job opportunities count as origin?:blob_whistle_two:
 

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Does getting crushed by metal beams at work after being screwed by your boss on job opportunities count as origin?
surpisngly.. this seems fine to me. short scene about how the character dies ot a short scene about who they were. dunno. I can't really give you a concrete answer because there isn't one.

the only novel i wrote was an isekai and i avoided the mc's previous life complelty except for a few details, like his brother dying when he was young. I dropped that bit somewhere in dialogue. Or internal dialogue. Can't really remember. Though I hinted to it when he displayed an uncharactrastic display of affection to a child in distress. See what I mean?

That is a piece of information that is relevant to the development of the story. His old apartment, his job, his relationships only matter in the correct context. I do not need to dump them immediately as they'll probably be forgotten later on anyway.

you can "show" how depressed/cynical your character is by interacting with the world and the new enviroment she's in, instead of "telling" me in the origin chapter. get what I mean?

again, this is a personal preference. I started my novel with mc naked with memory loss. very cliche but solid imho.
 

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you can "show" how depressed/cynical your character is by interacting with the world and the new enviroment she's in, instead of "telling" me in the origin chapter. get what I mean?

again, this is a personal preference. I started my novel with mc naked with memory loss. very cliche but solid imho.
I understand, hm... I might move some stuff around before I release shadows! I think I understand what you mean. c: Thank you, Blob! You've been very helpful! :blob_aww:I'll just start with them falling since MC's hostility toward the goddess already shows her state of mind. Hm, yup! I got a lot of work to do now!

Thank you, master Blob! You've enlightened me!:blob_aww:
 

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disclaimer: im not in any shape or form an expert, so dont take what i say as absolute.

there is one fundamental idea that i think you're not utilizing enough and is the cause of a majority of the 'flaws' i see.

you are writing in first person. It's incredibly personal. What you write is what the character sees and experiences. The words you use are what the character would use. When you desrcibe something, it is being described by the character.

1. complex vocab choices.

there are a bunch of these. they stick out and dont quite fit the sentence. this is supposed to be from the point of view of a reglular-ish girl. ex:
Licking my lip made me notice lacerations had started to dry and form scabs.
All I wanted to do was escape, but with my hands stained crimson, I knew it was over for me.
I wouldn’t allow her or anyone to benefit from me any longer.
The metallic taste of blood remained in my mouth, serving as a grim reminder of the damage I had suffered.

2. sentences: unclear/unnecessarily complex
I winced in response to a sudden ache that unexpectedly emerged, causing a sharp, stabbing pain in my head.
too many adjectives/adverbs. sentence became bloated. also you use stuff like "reason to", "made me", etc. to often. it's a crutch.
The metallic taste of blood remained in my mouth, serving as a grim reminder of the damage I had suffered.
grim reminder part doesn't really add anything.
The thought of fractured ribs crossed my mind, adding to the overwhelming sense of hopelessness.
you don't think of your fractured ribs. You feel them. the overall paragraph lacks the oomph of the situation. this doesn't reflect despair to me, more like detachment, which i don't think was youe intention.

3. lack of personalization

we're reading through the eyes of sylvia. these should be her thoughts. everything should be from her point of view.
She wasn’t wrong but failed to notice that I never wanted to.
weak impact. and it has to be about sylv not the sister. the 'wasn't wrong' part can be inferred by mc not denying this. Something like
"I never wanted this, any of this, but she doesn't care about that. It was always about her"
is personal and achieves a similar result while also conveying the mc's emotions.

The center of my world wasn't her as much as she wanted it to be.
same issue as above.
No one cared to stop me on my way up, either. They all avoided me even though I struggled to go down the hall. None batted an eye, seeing my clothes were stained red.
This is told from the eyes of a viewer. try to imagine how mc herself would experience this and describe it. Is she leaning on the wall as she walks? is she seeing straight? Maybe she's looking at people for help and they're avoiding her. maybe she sees pity in their eyes.
if you want to note blood on her clothes, make her notice it first. Maybe she trips or looks down and sees her bloody clothes. Maybe her hands leave red prints on the wall. Get what i mean? Direct and follow her line of sight

4. show and tell

there are a bunch of these but i am on phone and going for more examples is going to be painful, so here's just one.
“My date?! No! You fucking ruined my life! Not only did you take her, but now him too!” She snapped, appearing quite unhinged
this breaks immersion. dont tell me that she "looks unhinged". Describe it. Shouting, wide eyes, unstable breathing, etc etc
 

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1. complex vocab choices.
Hah! They tell me I write sentences that are too simple and then too complex! I can't make anyone happy! :blob_no: (I understand where you're coming from!) I'm a nurse so sometimes those fancy medical terms words slip by!
2. sentences: unclear/unnecessarily complex
too many adjectives/adverbs. sentence became bloated. also you use stuff like "reason to", "made me", etc. to often. it's a crutch.
I see hm...
you don't think of your fractured ribs. You feel them. the overall paragraph lacks the oomph of the situation.
In this case, she thinks she might've broken ribs because of the pain she experiences when she moves. Maybe I wrote it wrong to convey what I meant. Hm...
this doesn't reflect despair to me, more like detachment, which i don't think was youe intention.
Usually, people feel detached during traumatic situations, but I see what you mean.
3. lack of personalization

we're reading through the eyes of sylvia. these should be her thoughts. everything should be from her point of view.
Hm, yes! I see~
weak impact. and it has to be about sylv not the sister. the 'wasn't wrong' part can be inferred by mc not denying this. Something like
"I never wanted this, any of this, but she doesn't care about that. It was always about her"
is personal and achieves a similar result while also conveying the mc's emotions.
This is way better, thank you!
This is told from the eyes of a viewer. try to imagine how mc herself would experience this and describe it. Is she leaning on the wall as she walks? is she seeing straight? Maybe she's looking at people for help and they're avoiding her. maybe she sees pity in their eyes.
if you want to note blood on her clothes, make her notice it first. Maybe she trips or looks down and sees her bloody clothes. Maybe her hands leave red prints on the wall. Get what i mean? Direct and follow her line of sight
I see!! Okay, I know how to make that better~
4. show and tell
Yes! I know, sometimes I forget~ hehe


I'll take all this feedback and attempt to improve my writing! Thank you so much for your time, Blob! And thank you for making me a better writer!:blob_aww: I won't be perfect, but I'll surely try to be!
 

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I like your conversational tone,it's easy to read.But the inner conflict is not always so easy to tame.Maybe crime and punishment,but he explored the human psyche in ways that few could.Try introducing his torment im bits and pieces
Thank you, Jonny! I'll keep that in mind! :blob_aww:
 

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It's perfectly legible and easy to read,though the inner angst stuff is
But, but the psyche! The angst!! The edginess! I live for it!!!!:blob_evil::blobspearpeek:

You can definitely write.It was very easy to follow.
Thank you so much! That has made me into a happy puppy with a tail swinging like a windmill!:blob_aww:

.Just be careful of overdosing on the psychological aspect,try to establish his inner conflict with a few words, don't drown us in it.Think of Bogart in the Maltese Falcon.Hammet made you feel Sam Spades pain in a very few sentences.Google the ending of the Maltese Falcon, you'll see how to do it.
But yes, maybe I dove too deeply into the psychology in this chapter! I plan to break it up, put it in bits in the novel later, and let the reader see it in bits like sir @greyblob inspired me! Start the isekai right as they port into the new world!:blob_aww:

I'll look it up to see!:blob_melt: Thank you Jonny!
 

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But, but the psyche! The angst!! The edginess! I live for it!!!!:blob_evil::blobspearpeek:


Thank you so much! That has made me into a happy puppy with a tail swinging like a windmill!:blob_aww:


But yes, maybe I dove too deeply into the psychology in this chapter! I plan to break it up, put it in bits in the novel later, and let the reader see it in bits like sir @greyblob inspired me! Start the isekai right as they port into the new world!:blob_aww:

I'll look it up to see!:blob_melt: Thank you Jonny!
good luck and dont get too absorbed in the critiques. you're doing fine already
 

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good luck and dont get too absorbed in the critiques. you're doing fine already
Thank you, Blob!:blob_aww: I try not to.

I take what everyone said and try hammering it into my head to catch those silly moments where I tell rather than show. (This is where I'm trying to improve the most) But >.<it gets hard when my brain sees it and is like it's fine! They are crazy, not you! But it's my brain, you see. So, I need to take the common critiques and try to improve my writing even if it isn't perfect in the end.

Well, as best as I can will always be perfect!:blob_melt:

:blob_popcorn_two:I got to fix Shadow's beginning to start launching it. But but... Time!
 
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