Is Bondrewd the greatest villain in the current anime/manga genre?

[NotaNuffian]

Who is the greatest villain to you? Apart from politicians, people who forget to give you fries when you order a burger and fries, and so on.

The greatest villains in writing are the writers who drop their books. - Corty, circa 2025

Fr fr wat Corty said.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Fr fr wat Corty said.

??

 

[NotaNuffian]

"Is Bondrewd the greatest villain in the current anime/manga genre?"​

No, he's not by the very fact that he's self-aware and accepted by his society. He isn't evil because he does the things that he does for the sake of research and has been beneficial to the understanding of the world in made in abyss. He's the nightmare of progressiveness, he doesn't consider ethics or limitations, bondrewd does everything possible and sacrifices whatever it may be to gain that knowledge. His morality isn't questionable it's pure utilitarianism.

Griffith is a genuine villain because everything he does is selfish, he even hurts himself to accomplish his goals. He's consumed by his dream, there's no rationality behind him that justifies his actions other than his accomplishments. The people of the world that knows what came before him knows he's evil, and even now it's apparent that people will continue to attempt to take him down, his may be one of the final kingdoms but it was built on the sacrifice and blood of innocents across the entire world. He isn't making a better world he's making his own kingdom of heaven that is his cage for others to call him their savior and divine ruler.

They are completely different beings, one is accepted by their world and is aptly named for his enlightenment and progress of information, the other is a vile creature without equal a man made devil and just like the devil there are those who accept the embrace of demons and those who rage in spite of their insignificance in the face of his absolute terror and destruction. Plus just think about the fact that nearly everything supernatural and evil in the world is beholden to Griffith, yet Bondrewd continues needing to live in response to the mechanics and innate nature of the world.

This feels CGPT

 

[Hsinat]

Tbh, comparing him to Griffith is fine.

Both are bad people.

Both view themselves to be the only rightest thing their worlds have and ever would produce.

The question why Bondrewd gets so much hate is because the pain he dealt felt personal.

Same as how Griffith did by stabbing his entire team at the back. Granted the team will disband and everyone will kick Griffith out because he is shit.

Bondrewd on the other hand thinks that he is doing the right thing by using orphans as materials to further his studies on the abyss. Some argued it is necessary evil, but post niece me just thinks that it is still horrible.

So in terms of if Bondrewd is the greatest villain? Not by a long shot. Yes he hurts and kills kids and that makes him evil as hell. He is the type of personal villain that makes people want to smack him on sight, but he is no greatest villain.

But he would make the perfect antagonist, right?

 

[NotaNuffian]

But he would make the perfect antagonist, right?

Bondrewd feels like your asshole highschool teacher that tries to teach you a life lesson by murdering your dog.

He can choose to be Uncle Iroh or MCU Steve Rogers.

But no, he choose to be typical CN psychopath CN MC.

 

[Hsinat]

Bondrewd feels like your asshole highschool teacher that tries to teach you a life lesson by murdering your dog.

Fair enough... you didn't have to use animals here...

 

[NotaNuffian]

Fair enough... you didn't have to use animals here...

That is the point, he is bad because of the things he do.

Is it really necessary?

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Unit 731 did helped further medical science, but let's not forget how many dead.

 

[Hsinat]

Bondrewd feels like your asshole highschool teacher that tries to teach you a life lesson by murdering your dog.

He can choose to be Uncle Iroh or MCU Steve Rogers.

But no, he choose to be typical CN psychopath CN MC.

Sounds like you have a grudge...

 

[Mystic_Grasshopper]

This feels CGPT

That's what sucks about ai getting better, now you get people that confuse someone that presents an argument as sounding robotic.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Sounds like you have a grudge...

Tad bit when I typed out the sentence.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Sounds like you have a grudge...

Nota has a grudge. He likes his violence undiluted. No life lessons or moral dilemmas. Just good old fashioned violence.

 

[Hsinat]

That is the point, he is bad because of the things he do.

Is it really necessary?

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Unit 731 did helped further medical science, but let's not forget how many dead.

Unit 731 is far worse than anything I have ever read or heard about. Uk it's kinda funny how the Japanese people are ignorant about their history and go on how anime is the only thing their country ever did. No offence to anybody. It's just that they don't teach it to their youth.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Unit 731 is far worse than anything I have ever read or heard about. Uk it's kinda funny how the Japanese people are ignorant about their history and go on how anime is the only thing their country ever did. No offence to anybody. It's just that they don't teach it to their youth.

Obviously.

The japs I work with don't know or some refuses to know.

Because the main reason is that it might "weaken" the Jap mentality.

Well, fuck me.

 

[Hsinat]

That's what sucks about ai getting better, now you get people that confuse someone that presents an argument as sounding robotic.

Is this sarcasm or just a statement?

 

[Mystic_Grasshopper]

Is this sarcasm or just a statement?

It's a statement cuz I'm mildly offended that presenting my take on the subject cleanly and formatted is claimed to have been generated by an ai. An ai which continues to miss simple fucking context clues.

 

[Hsinat]

Obviously.

The japs I work with don't know or some refuses to know.

Because the main reason is that it might "weaken" the Jap mentality.

Well, fuck me.

japs are... how should I say without offending anyone here... have a very sheep like mentality.

All of them have the same mentality as well as personality... It's hypocritical.

At least, Miyazaki is still talking about it...

It's a statement cuz I'm mildly offended that presenting my take on the subject cleanly and formatted is claimed to have been generated by an ai. An ai which continues to miss simple fucking context clues.

Thanks for clearing my doubts!

 

[RepresentingWrath]

"Is Bondrewd the greatest villain in the current anime/manga genre?"​

No, he's not by the very fact that he's self-aware and accepted by his society. He isn't evil because he does the things that he does for the sake of research and has been beneficial to the understanding of the world in made in abyss. He's the nightmare of progressiveness, he doesn't consider ethics or limitations, bondrewd does everything possible and sacrifices whatever it may be to gain that knowledge. His morality isn't questionable it's pure utilitarianism.

Griffith is a genuine villain because everything he does is selfish, he even hurts himself to accomplish his goals. He's consumed by his dream, there's no rationality behind him that justifies his actions other than his accomplishments. The people of the world that knows what came before him knows he's evil, and even now it's apparent that people will continue to attempt to take him down, his may be one of the final kingdoms but it was built on the sacrifice and blood of innocents across the entire world. He isn't making a better world he's making his own kingdom of heaven that is his cage for others to call him their savior and divine ruler.

They are completely different beings, one is accepted by their world and is aptly named for his enlightenment and progress of information, the other is a vile creature without equal a man made devil and just like the devil there are those who accept the embrace of demons and those who rage in spite of their insignificance in the face of his absolute terror and destruction. Plus just think about the fact that nearly everything supernatural and evil in the world is beholden to Griffith, yet Bondrewd continues needing to live in response to the mechanics and innate nature of the world.

 

[NotaNuffian]

It's a statement cuz I'm mildly offended that presenting my take on the subject cleanly and formatted is claimed to have been generated by an ai. An ai which continues to miss simple fucking context clues.

Oops.

Sorry.

You good man.

 

[Mystic_Grasshopper]

Oops.

Sorry.

You good man.

I will state, I have used it for stuff like getting feedback for lines in my stories, but never to outright replace or think for me. Hence this dumb fucking ai doesn't get basic details right, mostly cuz it hallucinates ie adds shit that wasn't mentioned and shouldn't be in the discussion.

It's a little funny, but it's all good. But it does make me go "damn can't believe a homie trying to articulate be sounding like a loser that generates posts for a niche forum."

 

[ScarletWeeb]

Bondrewd—the Lord of Dawn from Made in Abyss. One of the most fascinating yet terrifying antagonists in anime/manga. He's the definition of charismatic evil—polite, articulate, and incredibly kind… while committing some of the most horrifying acts imaginable. Yet, at the same time... he can be a dotting father...who honours their kids names even after killing them.

Never even heard of this dude bruh.