I am highly convinced this story is AI generated.

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Stating the obvious
What isn't obvious is how an LLM polishing the grammar would change the setting entirely, delete characters, change the themes/genre of the story, make the previous chapter 1 to 5 disappear and replace it with a new 1 to 5, etc.
 

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What isn't obvious is how an LLM polishing the grammar would change the setting entirely, delete characters, change the themes/genre of the story, make the previous chapter 1 to 5 disappear and replace it with a new 1 to 5, etc.
LLMs have an aversion to smut, they can tone something down to polite… hotness or whatever it’s called. As for characters and setting, that’s entirely up to the author’s decision to change.

There are different kinds of ai sounding writing:

1. Prompt bros: People who only write prompts and ask an LLM to generate a story. That’s ai gen and the most obvious form of ai writing.

2. Authors who write their own chapters and ask ai to polish them: Still often has an obvious ai signature because it will replace their voice.

3. Authors who ask ai to translate their work into English: This is the least obvious of the 3, but a keen eye can detect it because ai prioritizes correct translation over changing the voice.

Lastly, authors who use ai for minor grammar polishing: You generally won’t be able to tell this at all.
 

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Imagine being such a loser you have to have AI write for you. This is just plain sad, any and all creative talent is gone.
 

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LLMs have an aversion to smut, they can tone something down to polite… hotness or whatever it’s called. As for characters and setting, that’s entirely up to the author’s decision to change.
They also have an aversion to violence and is always moralizing things. Can't have characters fight to the death. Description of injuries are sanitized.

And then we have the fourth kind of AI sounding writing:

4. Authors whose works were used to train the LLM without their knowledge and consent. Most of them were fanfic writers because LLM were trained on a lot of fanfics.
 

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I got accussed of using AI for having the word phospheresence

What? that's crazy! Phosphorescence* is such a casual word found in everyday conversation! How dare they find it weird. I surely don't.

LLMs have an aversion to smut, they can tone something down to polite… hotness or whatever it’s called. As for characters and setting, that’s entirely up to the author’s decision to change.

There are different kinds of ai sounding writing:

1. Prompt bros: People who only write prompts and ask an LLM to generate a story. That’s ai gen and the most obvious form of ai writing.

2. Authors who write their own chapters and ask ai to polish them: Still often has an obvious ai signature because it will replace their voice.

3. Authors who ask ai to translate their work into English: This is the least obvious of the 3, but a keen eye can detect it because ai prioritizes correct translation over changing the voice.

Lastly, authors who use ai for minor grammar polishing: You generally won’t be able to tell this at all.

5. Authors who pitch their idea world salad to an LLM and ask for potential ideas to make things better , who either A; choose one of the mostly shitty sounding ones and go with it or B; look at all the terrible ideas and become inspired enough from it to make their own that's better, telling the LLM they suck ass.
 

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LLMs have an aversion to smut, they can tone something down to polite… hotness or whatever it’s called. As for characters and setting, that’s entirely up to the author’s decision to change.
An author's decision. Yeah, it totally is an author's decision to have the smut, mature, and adult genres but have 0 content that matches those genres. It's totally reasonable to fail to meet up to the expectations of everyone who chose to give the story a chance.

Who the hell wrote this? All three of the new women were living their lives fine before they met him, but he miraculously runs into them when they are less than a day from death unless they start taking his treatments every day. And now the upright goody-two-shoes antagonist officer who threatened the corrupt magistrate is conveniently also corrupt.
 

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What? that's crazy! Phosphorescence* is such a casual word found in everyday conversation! How dare they find it weird. I surely don't.
It fit in context and I actually have a decent vocabulary. I barely ever even use thesaurus. Spell checker is another matter. I use that because I'm dyslexic, learned to read phonetically, and can't be bothered to memorize a bunch of exact speling. :mad_s:
 

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Update: In the story, Elara, the guildmaster, can completely abandon her guild duties on a whim and leave town with the MC. When they climb up to the spire (a place she lived in her whole life before moving down for her job), the air she should be used to is too clean and mana-dense, so it hurts her, but the new air doesn't hurt the hobgoblin, who travelled up there for the first time. It's like he forgets what he wrote 2 chapters ago.
 

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Maybe it's like one of the stories I listen to on Pocket FM - I'm convinced the actual author writes about 500 words per chapter, then has AI pad each one out to 2000.
 

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Yeah, I mean title confusion could lean into more of a translation thing in my mind, but being unable to make a 'law' consistent when it becomes a point of tension means a failure for basic consistency within a short space of a few chapters.
Part of that might just be my bias to establishing a setting before doing stuff in a story, but I'd expect the most basic conflicts to at least be plotted beforehand.
I agree with how you should plan ahead. I'm not actually a planner, but I have what I call "Trivia Excels" on different stories on my hard drive.
There's an array of information, depending on the story and what could be relevant in it, from names, to certain affiliations or other random info - if I just keep it to myself, I can mix and match depending on what rolls best thst day, but once I've started putting it into word, it needs to stay consistent. Getting something wrong you may or may not have changed around, while testing the idea in your, doesn't mean the story will break; the change might be inconsequential. But it sure does look incompetent to your audience.
Though it's not an explicit sign of AI, to stay on topic with the thread, I guess. I know writers that can't line up 200 Words in succession without causing a cognitive cataclysm. They can't hold onto a thought for two minutes, let alone several chapters.
Then again, that's the type of person you'd wish used AI - for all its worth, it would grant them some form of intelligence at last. :blob_cookie:
Maybe it's like one of the stories I listen to on Pocket FM
What's that? Yes, I'm too lazy to Google. :blob_cookie:
Have a cookie as a bribe. 🍪
 
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The starting chapters seemed mostly fine, but around chapter 7 the AI voice got much stronger, if you ask me. I really don't think it's completely AI-generated like u say, just heavily AI-assisted, yeah. The author probably replaced old chapters 1-5 with new rewritten and "improved" versions
 

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What's that? Yes, I'm too lazy to Google. :blob_cookie:
Have a cookie as a bribe. 🍪
Pocket FM? It's an app - works best on Apple products but I use it on an Android well-enough.
The company is based in India but has offices around the world, and is constantly looking for new writers - but then usually assigns AI readers to their works, often weak translations of some foreign material (ironically, My Vampire System was written in English, but the version they have was translated into Japanese and then BACK into English, resulting in some odd constructions). They have a contract system that makes them look like a more polite, less competent Webnovel (I had to pull two stories from this site, even though they were a little different, had different titles, and no voice elements here).
 

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Um... I'm kinda clueless here, but what's so special about the story?

I mean, there must be several stories like that here. Why specifically talk about that story in particular?
 

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Pocket FM? It's an app - works best on Apple products but I use it on an Android well-enough.
The company is based in India but has offices around the world, and is constantly looking for new writers - but then usually assigns AI readers to their works, often weak translations of some foreign material (ironically, My Vampire System was written in English, but the version they have was translated into Japanese and then BACK into English, resulting in some odd constructions). They have a contract system that makes them look like a more polite, less competent Webnovel (I had to pull two stories from this site, even though they were a little different, had different titles, and no voice elements here).
Lol, I know My Vampire System. It was so badly written.
How do you even pull things from a site like that?
 

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Why is AI a bad word?

Virtually every occupation has feared the onset of technology at one time or another. Rarely has those fears been justified. With the exception of elevator or switchboard operators, even when technology does affect a trade, it usually transforms the jobs rather than eliminating them, and often into something better.

Let’s be real, AI is a freight train and it's coming whether you like it or not. Every web novel author could line up on the tracks to stop it. But the only thing that will result in is author peanut butter, chunky style.

I believe AI should be viewed as a beneficial tool to help the author with their creativity, not feared as a replacement for it. I think it's one of those things that you either have to learn to embrace or risk being left behind.

I view fiction writing as an art. Yes, there are those who can’t tell the difference between generic, mass produced mediocrity and inspired art. All you have to do is look at today's popular music to see the truth of that. However, I do believe the avid reader, those who actually buy books, will know and appreciate that difference.
 

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what's so special about the story?
Read the first post in the thread. Basically on day 1 there was 1 story. On day 2 the story had disappeared and been replaced by something entirely different. Different settings, different characters, different themes, different genres, etc. Changing into some nonsense that isn't even coherent. The current chapter you are reading constantly contradicts the earlier chapters.
 

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Why is AI a bad word?
its a bad word bcs it makes it require ~100 times less effort, and results in worse quality stories for readers, while convincing authors they made improvements. It's incredibly distracting and immersion breaking when you're trying to read a story and it sounds like chatgpt
 

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its a bad word bcs it makes it require ~100 times less effort, and results in worse quality stories for readers, while convincing authors they made improvements. It's incredibly distracting and immersion breaking when you're trying to read a story and it sounds like chatgpt
I get it. It feels like trash, degrading the hard work and effort authors put into their craft. And I agree that it is. But I think everyone knows it's not going away. Your right, what a human author does takes a lot more effort, but it shows in quality. My thought is, if the disdain for AI is so all encompassing, that it could blind authors to where it could be used as a beneficial tool.
 
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