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great_sloth

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On the other hand, irl debates are all cool. You can argue on whichever side you take on.
That is until someone pulled a gun.

I hate classroom debates too especially if they starting to use bible verses, I'm not good with that.
 

Nolff

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You want some advice?

Debate because you want to know what the answer is and how the others views the topic.

Me? Personally, I often crushed my opponents.
 

Nevafrost

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That is until someone pulled a gun.

I hate classroom debates too especially if they starting to use bible verses, I'm not good with that.
Sameee! It's illegal to pull out a line from any kinda religious books in debate
You want some advice?

Debate because you want to know what the answer is and how the others views the topic.

Me? Personally, I often crushed my opponents.
I did too. And, it sucks when you already know the answer but still have to argue on the side you don't think is right.
 

2wordsperminute

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Also, I kinda agree with what you said. I do think that I'm the type of person who will abandon her client in the middle of an ongoing case if I ever get to know that he was the criminal. I think that makes me a terrible lawyer.
One of my former teachers was a lawyer before becoming a teacher. There was one case he worked on where he thought it was pretty obvious that his client was wrong. Like, his client had conspiracy theory levels of accusations. he barely tried. Turns out, the client was right and multiple other victims came out about it. You can never truly know which side is right until you have hard evidence.
 

Nevafrost

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One of my former teachers was a lawyer before becoming a teacher. There was one case he worked on where he thought it was pretty obvious that his client was wrong. Like, his client had conspiracy theory levels of accusations. he barely tried. Turns out, the client was right and multiple other victims came out about it. You can never truly know which side is right until you have hard evidence.
Yeah, I was just joking. I'm never gonna be lawyer with that mindset. But, I do have that kind of mindset, honestly. I'm the type of person who can't stand when someone is not rightful to me. I will give them a comeback. If I prove to be wrong, then I'll shut up and say sorry.
 

RepresentingDesire

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I think most debates are already stupid because they make it a pro or contra thing, nothing in this world is good or bad even if you don't consider the subjective nature of every single argument. Of course you can do that but I don't believe most hold only positive/negative opinions on a thing.
It destroys nuance even if this approach on its own has nuance, it's far more easier to just say yes.

Another things about debates that I find important is that logic doesn't matter, the dialectic way is stupid, it can have a lot of merit in discussions that are purely empirical, I would say but things like the god question exist. Rationalism in a greater form ignores emotions (though some rationalist try to include it (like myself) in various ways), emotions are an essential or at least important part (depending on the ideology) for arguments. You could show the most devot Christian the perfect argument against god but without crippling their fear in the first place it will be useless but one traumatic event could destroy their complete faith , an example would be the ruby ridge incident, of course it's only one example but why shouldn't happen lesser version of it when it comes to the lost of faith after a traumatic event.

We always need a reason to believe into something and most of the time the best arguments won't matter. The above is true for any belief we hold or at least I believe so.
 
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