Address to all the NTR’s not-so-lover

[advocatezz]

How do you feel when the author introduces a certain character as the romantic interest—she could be a very cute girl whom mc has a slight interest in, but not to the point of wanting to go out with, and they’re definitely not dating—but then makes that character go out with someone else?

Do you think that counts as an NTR? How do feel about it?

Not NTR for me, only slight interest from the MC, and from the sound of it the girl only thought of MC in platonic way. assuming the guy she went out with is also a nicely developed character then all's good for me .

NTR, for me is when they are already in a relationship and someone cheated or got drugged by someone else ,etc, etc.

 

[DutyInternal]

For NTR I think a relationship has to exist whilst she fucks the other guy???

 

[NotaNuffian]

Here is a quote from my experience then, which I had been harping on and on for awhile.

Sophia jumping to Humphrey in Shirlatoon's whiny drama.

Of all the scenes that involve fruitless love as well as MC not getting all the girls, this one is the oddest to me because I know that the ebony woman went with the heavy hitter as Jason is pronounced dead at that time. A bigger part of me understands that the relationship between this former slave girl and MC was rough and even though both of them had plans (?) for trying out together, they had not taken off. So the incel spark in me was screaming for the widow treatment is just... wut? I had to press the pillow down man, I had to. To kill the noise.

 

[Bartun]

That is sad outlook on love and romance. Call me naive and unrealistic, but I believe it is possible to be completely faithful to a single person.

I believe that two people can dedicate themselves to a partner, without 'needing something on the side'.
I also find cheating to be abhorrent, I could not possibly imagine doing that to someone.

Indeed, it's sad. I also believe that it is possible to remain faithful to a single person, but also I'm aware that "those things happen". Far are those times when you needed some serious courage to call the girl you liked because you knew her father would pick up the phone, those were other times.

As for cheating, I also thought I could never be able to cheat on my girlfriend until another girl hit on me and I started having serious doubts, I never cheated, but I was so close! I just needed a small push. That was when I understood that if it almost happened to me, it can happen to anyone.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

That's really up to the reader's perception.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Why are you guys talking about Non Tax Revenues again? We just talked about it the other day too!

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

Here is a quote from my experience then, which I had been harping on and on for awhile.

Sophia jumping to Humphrey in Shirlatoon's whiny drama.

Of all the scenes that involve fruitless love as well as MC not getting all the girls, this one is the oddest to me because I know that the ebony woman went with the heavy hitter as Jason is pronounced dead at that time. A bigger part of me understands that the relationship between this former slave girl and MC was rough and even though both of them had plans (?) for trying out together, they had not taken off. So the incel spark in me was screaming for the widow treatment is just... wut? I had to press the pillow down man, I had to. To kill the noise.

I'm having a hard time deciphering any meaning from this at all...

 

[NotaNuffian]

I'm having a hard time deciphering any meaning from this at all...

*clapping my hands*

~here baby here~

1. JasonxSophia will they won't they?

2. Jason fucking died.

3. Sophia smooched BBC.

Done~

 

[SilvCrimBlac]

Yeah, I think so too. I don‘t care about the definition of NTR, I only think of it in term of feeling. So, it’s like when you cheer for some characters to get together but they don’t, and the author even mocks the readers by making one of them go out with someone else, it kind of feels bitter. I’d say, that definitely counts as NTR!

Shit....this means I'm get some push back then. I introduce 2 female characters to my MC, and he likes both for different reasons but doesn't pursue them though I hint at his interest and that they reciprocate. Except....one is kidnapped by bandits as a "trophy" though I don't include any scenes of what happens after she is captured so I suppose it's left to reader imagination. The other one is her commanding officer in the military, eventually she captured by her obsessive CO, who after defecting to one of the numerous enemy sides, has her "demonized" (just a different kind of hypnotize), that strips her of her humanity and leaves her a obedient puppet of his due to him completing the mission he was given during his defection. Again, I don't have any scenes making it blatantly obvious what he intends, though I suppose it is still obvious to anyone who pays attention.

So......apparently I do fade-to-black NTR and didn't even realize it. MC will eventually have harem of 4, but they are never taken away though they are injured severely on numerous occasions. One is kidnapped but this leads to a nasty conflict that ends in a hostage exchange. But yeah...

So fade-to-black NTR is a thing then?

if so, I';ve been doing it for a while and had no idea.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

*clapping my hands*

~here baby here~

1. JasonxSophia will they won't they?

2. Jason fucking died.

3. Sophia smooched BBC.

Done~

I mean, that's just what people do, unless you're so dedicated that you're going to dig up the dude's grave to bone the... bones. I'm a freaking lich, I have NO foot to argue, but here I am.

I just fail to see how that scenario brings up NTR vibes specifically, and I fail to see why racial dynamics have anything to do with it, unless there's something else at play.

 

[SilvCrimBlac]

Hmmmmm.

Methinks that sounds like the logic a "nice guy" who buys flowers for a platonic best friend who rages when said best friend finds a boyfriend later on uses. I mean, unrequited love hurts and there is a double standard where male sufferers are called incels while females are shown in a tragic light; but an angry reaction, especially on the reader's side, feels immature. Not that there's anything wrong with emotional immaturity. It's all about what we choose to do with it.

Nice guy logic lol.

I despise the word incel. Not because I've ever been called it myself, but because it's also used for even those who have no problem getting dates, but find today's women to be more trouble than their entitled asses are worth, someone like me. Last time I dated, my date had an aneurysm because apparently, 50 bucks at Applebee's "wasn't classy".

Word of advice, don't date women who are proud of their college degrees and bring it up in discussion. I've made this mistake several times. They are all cunts with an overinflated opinion of themselves.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I mean. That's just what people do, unless you're so dedicated that you're going to dig up the dude's grave to bone the... bones. I'm a freaking lich, I have NO foot to argue, but here I am.

I just fail to see how that scenario brings up NTR vibes specifically, and I fail to see why racial dynamics have anything to do with it, unless there's something else at play.

Nah. I kid.

My inner incel and little shit decides to come out for a squeek.

The best part was that I myself know that there is no NTR, just a pointless drama ended.

The point is, a very smidge of me clings like booger in my nose that Sophia should, even when she has absolutely no obligation whatsoever.

 

[SilvCrimBlac]

Sophia jumping to Humphrey in Shirlatoon's whiny drama.

Here's your mistake. You read that abomination Shirtaloon calls a story.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

Nah. I kid.

My inner incel and little shit decides to come out for a squeek.

The best part was that I myself know that there is no NTR, just a pointless drama ended.

The point is, a very smidge of me clings like booger in my nose that Sophia should, even when she has absolutely no obligation whatsoever.

Oh, that's lingering hurt over a severed emotional connection, just means you're a human being with FeElS

Nice guy logic lol.

I despise the word incel. Not because I've ever been called it myself, but because it's also used for even those who have no problem getting dates, but find today's women to be more trouble than their entitled asses are worth, someone like me. Last time I dated, my date had an aneurysm because apparently, 50 bucks at Applebee's "wasn't classy".

Word of advice, don't date women who are proud of their college degrees and bring it up in discussion. I've made this mistake several times. They are all cunts with an overinflated opinion of themselves.

Agreed to an extent. Women who want the pampering/"respect" side of ultra traditionalism (without me saying anything at all about traditionalist stuff because I'm sure we all know how I feel about it at this point) can just be parasitic, but that's more of a personal thing than a "today's women" thing, they've always existed just the same as PUA dipshites have. Screen, screen, screen your dates or get taken advantage of.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Ooof, I'm feeling kinda called out. Back when I watched romance anime, I used to rage when best girl or boy didn't win the mc bowl.

Double so if the winner was some generic mary sue.


Why not both?

I like your thinking, old man

 

[BlackKnightX]

I believe that two people can dedicate themselves to a partner, without 'needing something on the side'.
I also find cheating to be abhorrent, I could not possibly imagine doing that to someone.

Totally agree with you on this. From my experience, if I really—like I mean really really—lose interest in my gf, then I’ll just dump her. I’ll tell her honestly about how I feel, and then we can move on.

Those are what I consider puppy loves. I was young and didn’t think about the serious relationship back then.

But now that I grow up, I don’t want to date around anymore.

I don’t cheat on my girlfriend—never done that and never even thought about it—when I’m in a relationship, I always keep a best friend dynamic with her—not platonic, but best-friend dynamic—we can talk about anything with each other just like best friend, and I never have doubts that my gf will ever cheat on me.

I mean, if it does happen, then that’s that, nothing I can do about it. But I never worry about such things at all.

I don’t know where I get this kind of confidence from, but I always believe that I’ll have the ability to keep the attraction and connection alive. When you‘re truly connected with someone, only you and that person exist in this world; it’s like you two are wrapped around in a cocoon and no one else can get in there.

Shit....this means I'm get some push back then. I introduce 2 female characters to my MC, and he likes both for different reasons but doesn't pursue them though I hint at his interest and that they reciprocate. Except....one is kidnapped by bandits as a "trophy" though I don't include any scenes of what happens after she is captured so I suppose it's left to reader imagination. The other one is her commanding officer in the military, eventually she captured by her obsessive CO, who after defecting to one of the numerous enemy sides, has her "demonized" (just a different kind of hypnotize), that strips her of her humanity and leaves her a obedient puppet of his due to him completing the mission he was given during his defection. Again, I don't have any scenes making it blatantly obvious what he intends, though I suppose it is still obvious to anyone who pays attention.

So......apparently I do fade-to-black NTR and didn't even realize it. MC will eventually have harem of 4, but they are never taken away though they are injured severely on numerous occasions. One is kidnapped but this leads to a nasty conflict that ends in a hostage exchange. But yeah...

So fade-to-black NTR is a thing then?

if so, I';ve been doing it for a while and had no idea.

Maybe you’re right, (ahem…bastard), but even if that’s not the case, it’s still kind of sad, though. Feel bad for all those girls. I really hate limit freedom, you see.

 

[Lloyd]

It depends on if they are best girl or not.

 

[BlackKnightX]

It depends on if they are best girl or not.

Yeah, that’s true. It’s the same as what I said, though: to be considered the best girl, she has to be introduced as a romantic interest first.

It doesn’t matter whether the author makes that obvious, but if the mc and that girl have romantic chemistry, then I’ll instantly think of that girl as already an mc’s girl. It’s just a matter of time until they really get together, anyway.

 

[BearlyAlive]

Objective answer: No.

A weebs answer: YES!!! If I (MC) can't have her, she better stays alone for the rest of her life because the shitty harem MC is obviously the only person that deserves to be in a relationship. It's already bad enough that Mom cheated on me with my dad and even gave birth to me and my sisters, that slut!!!

I'm currently writing a story where MC and his cousin (second MC) have some (family/friend+rival) tension going on (which 99% of the readers will interpret as romance) and the cousin actually acknowledging having a crush on him and coming to terms about being rejected before she even had a chance to realize her ferlings is what I plan to kickstart her character arc. It ends with an overly dramatic fight to death since both are fans of those scenes xD