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[BearlyAlive]

Murrica. Nuff said.

 

[Fox-Trot-9]

Because violence destroys, and sex creates. We live in a destructive world, not a creative world.

 

[BenJepheneT]

There's post-nut clarity, but there's no post-blood clarity.

Choice's obvious, tbh

 

[MajorKerina]

Imagine if kids start having orgies at school instead of bullying each other.

[Begins writing furiously]

 

[CarburetorThompson]

[Begins writing furiously]

http://imgur.com/a/vfqVLKG

 

[Gryphon]

Imagine if kids start having orgies at school instead of bullying each other.

When I was in highschool I wasn't invited to a party that apparently ended up being an orgy. Then I was made fun of for not being invited. What I'm getting at here is, both things can happen.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

Not only is pornography bad for your soul, it is bad for your brain. It erodes your frontal lobe.
Violence isn't as bad a reaction, and is necessary to survival. Gratuitous violence probably has a bad effect, but not nearly as bad as sexual imagry.
So there's way more reason to avoid sex than violence.

 

[Gryphon]

“The sexual revolution and it's consequences have been a distaster for the human race. Although it has caused pleasure for many, the untamed masses, behind the surface we could see the hopelessness of those who participate and don't but happen to exist in this world. The sexual revolution has caused an epidemic of single parenting, hedonistic tendencies, drug usage, parental neglect, sexual abuse and so much more. But what is so damning in fact, that it makes my mind boggle is of the fact that the sexual revolution has been the cause of the chief factors in the near endless decline of the nuclear family. The sexual revolution has changed the obligations and purpose of marriage from one being an institution to hold in responsibility parents to their children, has turned into one of self serving, thoughtless hedonistic pleasures” (Cruz 2021).
To add it should be noted that man’s innate drive for sexual encounters is a metaphysical force that drives innovation, war and all pursuits of human action. All actions of man in some way or another are designed and purposed consciously or unconsciously to allow men to get laid and have children. The sexual drive of men is the well of man’s life force, with men who often engage in the act of sex and other degenerate life styles living increasingly more unpleasurable lives as a result of their life actions.

It would be nice seeing actual evidence backing this mass of "What the fuck am I reading." A quote isn't the same as an actual study. Just cause someone said something, doesn't mean the thing they said was smart. Not to mention how does having a lot of sex correlate to sacrifice? People still have orgies today yet there's a historic low of infant sacrifice.

Not to mention teens, especially in highschool, will find out about what sex is one way or the other. And they will partake in it, no matter what anyone tells them through religious or moral views. So what matters is them finding out about it through proper education, cause they'll find out about it anyway. Hell, they have to find out about it if they want that nuclear family the dude you're quoting is mumbling about while under the influence under all of the drugs. So whats important is they have the proper education to not royally fuck up their lives by getting an STD or getting pregnant at sixteen.

Report of several studies about the benefits of sexual education: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/a...for-sex-education-and-effective-birth-control

Its important for teenagers to find out about what sex is, but when we put up all the taboo walls through the guise of morality and religion, while still showing them someone being decapitated, all we do is harm the next generation.

Violence isn't as bad a reaction, and is necessary to survival.

Without violence the human race would still be a thing. In fact it would pretty much be a dream Utopia. Without sex, there would be no human race. Not saying excessive sex isn't bad for you, but so is getting your head chopped off. Cause you'd be dead.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

It would be nice seeing actual evidence backing this mass of "What the fuck am I reading." A quote isn't the same as an actual study. Just cause someone said something, doesn't mean the thing they said was smart. Not to mention how does having a lot of sex correlate to sacrifice? People still have orgies today yet there's a historic low of infant sacrifice.

Not to mention teens, especially in highschool, will find out about what sex is one way or the other. And they will partake in it, no matter what anyone tells them through religious or moral views. So what matters is them finding out about it through proper education, cause they'll find out about it anyway. Hell, they have to find out about it if they want that nuclear family the dude you're quoting is mumbling about while under the influence under all of the drugs. So whats important is they have the proper education to not royally fuck up their lives by getting an STD or getting pregnant at sixteen.

Report of several studies about the benefits of sexual education: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/a...for-sex-education-and-effective-birth-control

Its important for teenagers to find out about what sex is, but when we put up all the taboo walls through the guise of morality and religion, while still showing them someone being decapitated, all we do is harm the next generation.

Without violence the human race would still be a thing. In fact it would pretty much be a dream Utopia. Without sex, there would be no human race. Not saying excessive sex isn't bad for you, but so is getting your head chopped off. Cause you'd be dead.

Planned parenthood? lol. Wouldn't trust them with babies or kids.
Sex ed was started by pedophiles around the start of the sexual revolution. Neither of which have been good for humanity. Also, birth control is unhealthy.

Violence? It's how we hunt and slaughter animals to feed ourselves. It's how we defend ourselves from those who want to chop our heads off.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Neither are worse than the other. (Personally, I don't care for either) Some cultures simply see sexual relationships as special or sacred thing that should be (depending on the culture or religion) either very personal or part of a religious act. A lot of cultures and religions are the opposite and either don't care too much or use it for pleasure like the Greeks who had lesbian psychedelic honey orgies. Violence, on the other hand, was fairly praised for most of history by pretty much every society and culture with a few exceptions. Mock battles were normal along with real battles as wars, skirmishes, and pillaging parties are a near constant throughout history. With how the world is now, people from those cultures and religions where sexual relationships are a sacred thing are getting to a place where their culture and/or religious beliefs are being slowly encroached upon by the rest of the world. Thus, the hate for non-personal and sacred relationships. Though even those cultures had at one point a violent culture as sometimes it was necessary to protect themselves. This ultimately led to modern day fighting sports such as martial arts, boxing, and MMA as no culture was immune to desiring violence. Take this with a grain of salt though as I'm sure someone will come along with something to prove this wrong.

 

[Ai-chan]

Because love and birth is in the hands of God.
Death and murder is in the hands of men.
Or women, look, let's not go there, okay?

So since death and murder is in the hands of men,
It is okay to show them to children.
Stuff like, Look boy, that's how you skewer some balls
And all that shit.

On the other hand, sex may lead to fun
God doesn't like fun, that's why he kicked all the Grigori from Heaven.
Sex too may lead to babies
Since God is the one who gives life, he hates it when other people make life

So it comes to the authority of men and God
Authority of men is in the hands of men
Authority of God is in the hands of the fanatics
And fanatics say, "Sex is bad, mkay!"

 

[Gryphon]

Planned parenthood? lol. Wouldn't trust them with babies or kids.
Sex ed was started by pedophiles around the start of the sexual revolution. Neither of which have been good for humanity. Also, birth control is unhealthy.

Violence? It's how we hunt and slaughter animals to feed ourselves. It's how we defend ourselves from those who want to chop our heads off.

I'm talking about violence of person against person which is one hundred what the dude was originally talking about. And planned parenthood is how teenagers don't get pregnant at sixteen because they were either stupid and didn't use any contraception and how victims of rape don't have to raise the perpetrator's kid. Birth control also helps a lot and if there is any side effects with them, then its better than the side effect of not using it that would affect a person's entire life.

Sex ed is literally what keeps teenagers from ruining their lives by teaching them how to engage with that stuff safely. Whether there's sex ed or not, teenagers will engage in sexual activites. The difference that sex ed makes is that less of them become parents before eighteen. To say that the people that started it are somehow pedo's is both irresponsible and disrespectful to teenagers that would be affected by the lack of sex ed, and to the organization that helps teenagers not ruin their lives and the child's life that didn't get a choice of being born.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

I'm talking about violence of person against person which is one hundred what the dude was originally talking about. And planned parenthood is how teenagers don't get pregnant at sixteen because they were either stupid and didn't use any contraception and how victims of rape don't have to raise the perpetrator's kid. Birth control also helps a lot and if there is any side effects with them, then its better than the side effect of not using it that would affect a person's entire life.

Sex ed is literally what keeps teenagers from ruining their lives by teaching them how to engage with that stuff safely. Whether there's sex ed or not, teenagers will engage in sexual activites. The difference that sex ed makes is that less of them become parents before eighteen. To say that the people that started it are somehow pedo's is both irresponsible and disrespectful to teenagers that would be affected by the lack of sex ed, and to the organization that helps teenagers not ruin their lives and the child's life that didn't get a choice of being born.

It's irresponsible for teenagers to be having sex in the first place, like sex ed has stopped teenagers from getting pregnant at all. What it does is get kids to start thinking about sex more, and fool them into thinking they can make it 'safe' or without consequences. Why do you think abortion has become more and more prevalent, even celebrated?

Sexual degeneracy, it's a failure of morals, from parents to society. It what leads to thinking teenagers gonna sex no matter what. Well of course if it's encouraged more will do it. If it's discouraged less will do it.

Like saying legalizing drugs makes them safer. Wrong, it just makes their use more widespread. Just look at LA for proof of how permitting drug use makes things worse.

Enabling bad behavior just encourages it.

As for violence, when its depicted in media it rarely encourages kids to go out and commit violence. Thats like dumb politicians blaming video games.
The effects on the brain are not anywhere near the same magnitude as sexual imagry and habitual consumption. One can't habitually experience gore in the same way.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

It would be nice seeing actual evidence backing this mass of "What the fuck am I reading." A quote isn't the same as an actual study. Just cause someone said something, doesn't mean the thing they said was smart. Not to mention how does having a lot of sex correlate to sacrifice? People still have orgies today yet there's a historic low of infant sacrifice.

Not to mention teens, especially in highschool, will find out about what sex is one way or the other. And they will partake in it, no matter what anyone tells them through religious or moral views. So what matters is them finding out about it through proper education, cause they'll find out about it anyway. Hell, they have to find out about it if they want that nuclear family the dude you're quoting is mumbling about while under the influence under all of the drugs. So whats important is they have the proper education to not royally fuck up their lives by getting an STD or getting pregnant at sixteen.

Report of several studies about the benefits of sexual education: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/a...for-sex-education-and-effective-birth-control

Its important for teenagers to find out about what sex is, but when we put up all the taboo walls through the guise of morality and religion, while still showing them someone being decapitated, all we do is harm the next generation.

Without violence the human race would still be a thing. In fact it would pretty much be a dream Utopia. Without sex, there would be no human race. Not saying excessive sex isn't bad for you, but so is getting your head chopped off. Cause you'd be dead.

No.

 

[Gryphon]

It's irresponsible for teenagers to be having sex in the first place, like sex ed has stopped teenagers from getting pregnant at all. What it does is get kids to start thinking about sex more, and fool them into thinking they can make it 'safe' or without consequences. Why do you think abortion has become more and more prevalent, even celebrated?

Sexual degeneracy, it's a failure of morals, from parents to society. It what leads to thinking teenagers gonna sex no matter what. Well of course if it's encouraged more will do it. If it's discouraged less will do it.

Like saying legalizing drugs makes them safer. Wrong, it just makes their use more widespread. Just look at LA for proof of how permitting drug use makes things worse.

Enabling bad behavior just encourages it.

Do you think that teenagers don't think about sex unless they're told about it? You must highly doubt the intelligence of teenagers and their ability to search the internet or read books. I remember being in elementary school and kids were doing that salt joke where you put your hand over your mouth and move it up and down under the pretense of shaking salt into your mouth. That was before any sex education and we lived out in the country where internet wasn't that common, and the few people that had access to it, it wasn't that strong or good. Whether you like it or not, kids will discover what sex is, and unless they're educated on it, they could do something that would ruin their lives. Ignoring the problem and telling them sex is bad isn't going to magically help them. What actually helps is access to proper education.

To build on your drug comparison, that's like telling a kid drugs are bad, but not educating them on how it affects they're body, then you become surprised when they take a drug because they weren't properly told about the negative effects of drug usage. Back before any education about cigarettes were a thing, a ton of people smoked them even when people said they were bad for you. That's the current vaping epidemic we have going on. We know they're bad for the body, but we don't know the exact science because companies are keeping the crap shut tight, and without proper education behind it, highschoolers and middle schoolers use them despite people saying its bad for the body.

saying legalizing drugs makes them safer. Wrong, it just makes their use more widespread. Just look at LA for proof of how permitting drug use makes things worse.

Remember when the US made alcohol illegal and all that did was make the illegal transport of alcohol more widespread. Meaning that it became harder to stop people from gaining access to alcoholic beverages because they had to go through a lot of hoops to try and figure out how alcohol was getting around. Making alcohol illegal just made it harder to control the circulation of alcohol and in turn, made it more appetizing because if you tell someone to not do something, they'll do it anyway. The only thing you can do is try and make it where it's more controllable, and educate people of the effects. That way if some do partake in it, they can at least do it safely and not ruin their life.

Not to mention there are different types of drugs. Like, making weed illegal does close to nothing, but there ain't no way in hell making cocaine legal will do any good. The effects of each are entirely different. Not to mention drugs can result in death where as sex results in children if done without protection. And how can someone figure out there is protection if they're not taught that protection exists? You want someone to get knocked up before they realize they could have prevented it?

Although I'm building on your drug comparison, in reality, comparing drugs to sex is an apple and oranges comparison.

As for violence, when its depicted in media it rarely encourages kids to go out and commit violence. Thats like dumb politicians blaming video games.
The effects on the brain are not anywhere near the same magnitude as sexual imagry and habitual consumption. One can't habitually experience gore in the same way.

I wanted to save this for last because this shows a lack of knowledge as to how violence and sex are portrayed in media and how people react to it. And you contradict yourself in this paragraph very easily and I don't know how you didn't catch it. I agree with the sentiment that politicians saying that people are more likely to commit violence by seeing it in games is incredibly dumb. That's not how the human brain works. Just because violence is portrayed in a golden shimmer in a game, that doesn't mean people will go and do it. If someone killed someone in real life, they were likely to do it without the effect of media's involvement to begin with.

But then how is sex any different in that way? If sex is portrayed in a game, and it's given a golden light, then they are not more likely to do it. If someone were to go out and fuck someone right after a game, they would have done it anyway even if they hadn't played the game. People are more likely to have sex instead of kill someone, not because of media, but because they would have done so to begin with even if they weren't exposed to said media.

Since more people are likely to have sex, then that brings up the question of consequence. What's the consequence of killing someone? Well they die? How do you prevent them from dying? By not killing them. It's that easy. However, what about sex then? What are the consequences of sex? Getting someone pregnant or getting an STD. How do you prevent that? Several answers, the most obvious is not having sex. But why would they not when they don't know the consequences? Sex releases dopamine, and unless its non-conscensual, it usually feels good for both parties. So why wouldn't they do it?

I'm not even going to bring up the fact that despite murder being illegal in every religious and moral right, a lot of people still do it anyway.

If they're not properly educated on the consequences, then there'd be no reason to not do it. If they don't know they could get pregnant from having sex, or that they could get a disease from it, then they'll take less steps to prevent it. Which means that more teenage pregnancies will be a thing and more underage people will have sex without care. Telling someone they'll go to hell isn't enough of a prevention since that's a concept that won't affect them in the present, and its not exactly a concept truly known by the human mind. People will still kill and still have sex.

The difference is we can prevent the consequences of underage sex by proper education. You can't prevent the consequences of murder, no matter the education.

 

[kophzi]

Because there is a need to glorify war, giving it values and notions such as dignity, honour, call of duty, or for God's sake. (Deus Vult/God wills it)
If no one had any inclination towards joining the army at all, kingdoms that do prioritize such values will invade and take all our resources. (Genghis Khan/Vikings etc)
Hence, the need to accept violence in controlled capacity.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

Do you think that teenagers don't think about sex unless they're told about it? You must highly doubt the intelligence of teenagers and their ability to search the internet or read books.

Whether you like it or not, kids will discover what sex is, and unless they're educated on it, they could do something that would ruin their lives.

Ignoring the problem and telling them sex is bad isn't going to magically help them. What actually helps is access to proper education.

And how can someone figure out there is protection if they're not taught that protection exists? You want someone to get knocked up before they realize they could have prevented it?

It appears you are the one underestimating the intelligence of teens. Education doesn't fix these problems, enabling doesn't. I remember having two instances of sex ed.

The first was when I was in 6th grade. We watched a video about sexual organs and such working. pretty boring, not that helpful for a room of kids about to start puberty.

The second was a semester long class 11th grade. It emphasized on where to get 'help' from, since it was late for preventative 'education'. Most boring class and taught dependency on institutions.

I don't remember if i actually learned anything from either instance. My issue is, why are we relying on the govt for everything? Why aren't parents expected to take care of this?

I wanted to save this for last because this shows a lack of knowledge as to how violence and sex are portrayed in media and how people react to it. And you contradict yourself in this paragraph very easily and I don't know how you didn't catch it.

But then how is sex any different in that way?

You didn't catch my subtext. People don't go out and have sex after seeing pornography. They pleasure themselves. Masturbation. Addiction.
You can't experience violence the same way. That's a big reason why violence is more acceptable to depict.

Since more people are likely to have sex, then that brings up the question of consequence. What's the consequence of killing someone? Well they die? How do you prevent them from dying? By not killing them. It's that easy. However, what about sex then? What are the consequences of sex? Getting someone pregnant or getting an STD. How do you prevent that? Several answers, the most obvious is not having sex. But why would they not when they don't know the consequences? Sex releases dopamine, and unless its non-conscensual, it usually feels good for both parties. So why wouldn't they do it?

I'm not even going to bring up the fact that despite murder being illegal in every religious and moral right, a lot of people still do it anyway.

If they're not properly educated on the consequences, then there'd be no reason to not do it. If they don't know they could get pregnant from having sex, or that they could get a disease from it, then they'll take less steps to prevent it. Which means that more teenage pregnancies will be a thing and more underage people will have sex without care. Telling someone they'll go to hell isn't enough of a prevention since that's a concept that won't affect them in the present, and its not exactly a concept truly known by the human mind. People will still kill and still have sex.

The difference is we can prevent the consequences of underage sex by proper education. You can't prevent the consequences of murder, no matter the education.

If someone really wants to do something, knowing the consequences will never stop them. But sex ed lies by telling them that consequences can be subverted.
It fails to teach why or when sex is appropriate. Our society doesn't care to restrain this, i mean look where we are. Sex ed doesn't educate about the horrors of abortion, casual sex leading to failure to bond to each other, consequences of porn addiction, or the awful consequences of trans conversion.
If it did, then maybe it would start to do what you said and lead away from poor life choices.

Heck, public education doesn't teach many important life skills at all.

Edit: drug and cigarette warning campaigns use fear tactics to convince people they are bad. Propoganda. If they did the same for alcohol, it would work. It's actually poison that people drink for 'fun'.

Nobody says sex is evil, they say it shouldn't be abused. Doesn't stop degenerates, (they don't listen to reason).

 

[lambenttyto]

Because the the draw to sex is something we all experience. I would hope the draw for violent action is not something we all experience. I know we live in crazy times, but the chances one of us on this forum goes nits and murders a bunch of people is incredibly small. Now, the draw for sexual immorality and perversion is far more prevalent, and making the wrong choices in our lives can effect us and the people around us negatively.

That's the reason.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Sex has the potential to involve a third party that has no choice in the conversation, unless one side is sterile or they are both the same sex. Violence... well... the parties involved are usually adults.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

I also find it puzzling.

Why do we censor activities which could result in new life more strictly than activities which could result in death?