How do I stop writing (I) in my first-person POV novel.

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I realized in my writings, I've managed to write I multiple times per paragraph, I'm also stuck with white room syndrome where I don't describe anything.

I can't seem to rid of the "I"s and "Me"s, when I re-read my sentences, it's just I everywhere. Even as I write this sentence, I realize I wrote I at least nine times.

How do other First-Person writers deal with the I-dhd.



*Also, I can't seem to figure out how to increase readership, views seem consistent but readers keep dropping like a brick.
 

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I realized in my writings, I've managed to write I multiple times per paragraph, I'm also stuck with white room syndrome where I don't describe anything.

I can't seem to rid of the "I"s and "Me"s, when I re-read my sentences, it's just I everywhere. Even as I write this sentence, I realize I wrote I at least nine times.

How do other First-Person writers deal with the I-dhd.
In the context of first POV, white space syndrome usually occurs because the author focuses too much on the character's internal thoughts rather than interacting with their environment. The solution is simple: narrate your protagonist actively interacting with the environment and use the protagonist's senses to describe the environment.

For example, by looking at a lamp, you can narrate the light; by touching a table, you can narrate the hard wooden surface; by smelling the morning air, you can narrate the refreshing dew.

This way, your narrative will feel more alive.
 

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I will be common in first person. In third person you can substitute pronouns with names or descriptions. First person doesn't allow it. Only thing I can say is use less sentences that require pronouns somehow?

As for growth, just stay consistent, and you will get readers, provided you're writing something appealing to SH audience.
 

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I will be common in first person. In third person you can substitute pronouns with names or descriptions. First person doesn't allow it. Only thing I can say is use less sentences that require pronouns somehow?

As for growth, just stay consistent, and you will get readers, provided you're writing something appealing to SH audience.

I have no idea what is appealing to the SH audience, I've got the gist that its mostly smut and pretty girl on cover so I've got that covered.
 

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In the context of first POV, white space syndrome usually occurs because the author focuses too much on the character's internal thoughts rather than interacting with their environment. The solution is simple: narrate your protagonist actively interacting with the environment and use the protagonist's senses to describe the environment.

For example, by looking at a lamp, you can narrate the light; by touching a table, you can narrate the hard wooden surface; by smelling the morning air, you can narrate the refreshing dew.

This way, your narrative will feel more alive.
Sounds good but if I do it too much. I basically have no room for conversations and if I try to find new vocab to describe the environment, it feels like I ate a thesaurus and vomited it back out.
 

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Make a backlog then

Backlog too large :er_what_s:

I have a major problem in which I require readers to point out my mistakes quickly so I can fix them. I can't identify my own issues due to narcissism. *Which of course is a very bad thing


Edit : Ok, I remember now that self-loathing is usually quite uncouth, I shall remove myself from more yapping.
 
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Sounds good but if I do it too much. I basically have no room for conversations and if I try to find new vocab to describe the environment, it feels like I ate a thesaurus and vomited it back out.
So why not use the atmosphere to represent the character's emotion? This way, the environmental descriptions aren't just empty settings but have emotional meaning.

For example, when the protagonist stares at the sky in a dark room, she's not just seeing a dark sky, but rather reflecting her feelings of doubt, anxiety, and gloom.

For me, every environmental detail should add value to the narrative. If not, just remove the description.
 

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So why not use the atmosphere to represent the character's emotion? This way, the environmental descriptions aren't just empty settings but have emotional meaning.

For example, when the protagonist stares at the sky in a dark room, she's not just seeing a dark sky, but rather reflecting her feelings of doubt, anxiety, and gloom.

For me, every environmental detail should add value to the narrative. If not, just remove the description.
That's very insightful and actually super helpful with the example...

But I guess I can't spam emotions too much, you can only have that much emotions...any other methods?



"Emotional depth is not a bottomless well; we must be careful not to draw from it faster than it can refill." - Sudden enlightenment Eagle
 

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Don't leave your protagonist alone (or alone with their thoughts) for more than a few seconds. If all their friends/enemies/whatever have left, it's time to end the chapter.
 

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Don't leave your protagonist alone (or alone with their thoughts) for more than a few seconds. If all their friends/enemies/whatever have left, it's time to end the chapter.
Hmmm...very good advice.

Although being stuck in first-person means I can't really go in depth with my other characters internal monologues and emotions...(How do people do that with just facial expression?)

I'd probably end the chapter with the character going for a smoke break due to the stressors of being a main character, I have found myself abusing the characters in order to get more emotions out of them. Definitely the wrong way to be writing good novels.
 

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I realized in my writings, I've managed to write I multiple times per paragraph, I'm also stuck with white room syndrome where I don't describe anything.

I can't seem to rid of the "I"s and "Me"s, when I re-read my sentences, it's just I everywhere. Even as I write this sentence, I realize I wrote I at least nine times.

How do other First-Person writers deal with the I-dhd.



*Also, I can't seem to figure out how to increase readership, views seem consistent but readers keep dropping like a brick.
Most readers expect to see “I” used a ton in a first person story, so don’t ever beat yourself up if you see it a few dozen times in a chapter. I’ve realized that readers tend to notice these things far less than we do as writers. But, I’ll show you a few ideas I’ve come up since this repetition also drove me crazy before:

Example 1. Combine the sentences so the subject doesn’t restart every time.

Original from your story: I hit the grass hard, the impact sending a jolt through my frame that felt... different. I didn't land like a guy. I landed with a strange, springy tension.

Revised Version: I hit the grass hard, and the impact sent a jolt through my frame that felt… different. Not like a guy hitting the ground, but with a strange, springy sensation.

Example 2. Remove action phrases and turn them into summaries of the action instead (not sure if it’s called action phrases, but that’s what I’m going with).


Original from your story: I stood motionless for a minute. I needed to think. I remembered Earth. I remembered the long raid and the dim light of my room. I tried to think about my family. I tried to think about what earth was like.


Revised Version: I stood motionless for a moment, trying to think. Memories of my life back on Earth began to surface: the long raid, the dimly lit room, my family, and what Earth had been like.


Example 3. Let the environment or action be the focus of the sentence instead of the character (This one should actually help out on your white room syndrome problem).

Original from your story: I dropped to one knee. The vacuum-sealed suit was so thin I could feel every pebble and blade of grass through the fabric on my shin. I peered through the scope, my cybernetic eye syncing with the rifle’s ballistics.

Revised Version: Dropping to one knee drove a sharp pebble straight through the thin, vacuum sealed fabric of the suit. Inside the scope, the cybernetic eye synced with the rifle’s ballistics, and the sunrise was stripped of any color worth admiring.

Last one required me to actually write instead of stealing your wording, so sorry if it came out a bit clunky.
 

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For the "white room syndrome" you got.

For all the "I" that you keep sprinkling in. Stop being so self-centered. Should cut a little above half of all the self referencing with that alone. Go by slight actions and rising emotions. Build-ups that can translate to someone above five years old as getting uncomfortable, a blossoming realization, that they ain't a robot, etc.
 

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I would suggest looking for classic first-person stories and see how they were done. "The Big Sleep" (the more coherent but less elegant version of the story that the Bogart/Bacall movie was based on) was the one I used for the Jack Diamond stories. A lot of horror authors also use first person - H. P. Lovecraft made extensive use of it, Edgar Allan Poe employed it to great effect in a few stories, some of Stephen King's better short stories are first person, Robert Bloch has some awesome first-person stories.
For more modern, a bit "spicier" examples, Charlaine Harris's "Southern Vampire Chronicles" (aka "True Blood") or Laurel K. Hamilton's Anita Blake stores can be enlightening (though Hamilton goes from Adult to Erotica to Penthouse Forum then back to "mere" Erotica between books, IIRC, three and ten, and dials it back down to "adult" for the last three; I've only read the first two and #8, with the latter being the smuttiest according to most fans of the series I've spoken with).
Or, if you want some other examples and don't need to bother with published authors, Strange Awakening, True Blue and Diamond in the Rough are all first-person stories...
 

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I realized in my writings, I've managed to write I multiple times per paragraph, I'm also stuck with white room syndrome where I don't describe anything.

I can't seem to rid of the "I"s and "Me"s, when I re-read my sentences, it's just I everywhere. Even as I write this sentence, I realize I wrote I at least nine times.

How do other First-Person writers deal with the I-dhd.



*Also, I can't seem to figure out how to increase readership, views seem consistent but readers keep dropping like a brick.
There are many ways to avoid writing I. East Asians and Southeast Asians do not use pronouns as much as westerners do. This is in part due to culture and in part due to reluctance to using pronouns.

For example:

"I want to go eat" can be changed into "Going to eat".
"I don't like this colour" can be changed into "Don't like this colour"

The Japanese is famous for hating pronouns. It is very rare to hear pronouns such as I and you being used in normal conversations. It is more common for names to be used in place of pronouns instead, such as "Ai-chan (I) doesn't want donuts." or "Ai-chan (she) doesn't want donuts." or "Ai-chan (you) doesn't want donuts."

A usual conversation can be like this:
Rie-san: Ai-chan, here's some donuts.
Ai-chan: Ai-chan doesn't want donuts.
Mo-san: Aiya, everyone knows Ai-chan doesn't eat donuts.
Rie-san: Really? Naa... Rie doesn't know.

Ai-chan can write three times as long as this and you can still see not a single pronoun. Ai-chan can also rewrite this sentence like this, "This dialogue can be three times as long and there still won't be a single pronoun."

So go the Asian route and say no to pronouns!
 
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