Would you become a vegetarian if you moved to a land of vegetarians? (Poll)

[minacia]

I'm procrastinating.

So basically you died and transmigrated to an isekai world, but a key feature about this world is that eating meat is as taboo as cannibalism. Everyone in this universe is vegan (no animal products allowed) and most countries it's illegal to eat meat.​

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The punishment for being caught eating meat is extremely severe. It's treated exactly the same as human cannibalism, so it's considered worse than murder. If anybody found out that you eat meat, they would look at you in horror like you're a monster.​

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Since humans in this world are all vegans and don't hunt animals, wild animals do not fear humans.​

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Like you can literally go into the woods and pet a deer/squirrel/bird if you wanted to. ​

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Incidentally, it's technically extremely easy to sneak out into the woods at night with a bow-and-arrow and kill some animals (and cook them), if you wanted to. The animals wouldn't run away, and although you would have to hide the body afterwards and make sure that there's no evidence that you did it.​

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Alternatively... you could be good citizen and give up on meat forever.​

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What do you do?​

1. How long can you go without eating meat?

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)

 

[Deleted member 29316]

In this context, prolly I'd lose motivation to eat meat.

1. Immediately.

2. I'd like to, but then again, I'll miss eating meat.

3. Nope. But not because they condemned me, it's more like a 'conscience' thing. I don't want to offend anyone, especially in a new setting/world I'm unfamiliar with. You know, 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do'?

4. Nah. I can only eat; butchering is another thing. (I can't do it)

5. A couple of days. I'd like to balance my diet. And yes, there should be meatless days.

 

[Nahrenne]

I'm procrastinating.

So basically you died and transmigrated to an isekai world, but a key feature about this world is that eating meat is as taboo as cannibalism. Everyone in this universe is vegan (no animal products allowed) and most countries it's illegal to eat meat.​

​

The punishment for being caught eating meat is extremely severe. It's treated exactly the same as human cannibalism, so it's considered worse than murder. If anybody found out that you eat meat, they would look at you in horror like you're a monster.​

​

Since humans in this world are all vegans and don't hunt animals, wild animals do not fear humans.​

​

Like you can literally go into the woods and pet a deer/squirrel/bird if you wanted to. ​

​

Incidentally, it's technically extremely easy to sneak out into the woods at night with a bow-and-arrow and kill some animals (and cook them), if you wanted to. The animals wouldn't run away, and although you would have to hide the body afterwards and make sure that there's no evidence that you did it.​

​

Alternatively... you could be good citizen and give up on meat forever.​

​

What do you do?​

1. How long can you go without eating meat?

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)

'-'
Well...my problem with this is the transmigration thing...
It's bad for the body to completely quit the consumption of meat, especially if it's a regular part of the diet.
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Considering that I don't know what the technological level of this world is, moving around with a bow and arrow might be weird or normal - I'm actually wondering what the inhabitants' views on violence in general is.
What other kinds of food are available in this world with no meat?
How much of this world is inhabited and regulated by laws? As in, is the whole world populated by sentient races, or is it a portion? If the latter, what's to stop someone from going to the wilderness far away from civilisation and living how they want to live?
If people don't eat meat, what's the view on killing an animal that attacks you?
What are their views on animals eating other animals? Or is this a world with no carnivores?
'-'

How long has the society been vegetarian?
They must have the concept of eating meat if it is seen as condemnable, so what is it that made the society become like that?


I digress...
orz

1. I could probably do it but I imagine I would have some severe health complications in the first few weeks to months.
2. In real life, or in this scenario?
- Real life, not really no. There's too much wonderful food I like to give up for becoming vegetarian.
- In the scenario, I'd kind of have to since I'm a coward and don't want to be shunned by another society.
3. I kind of answered that already...
4. I mean...kind of? The question is whether I'd actually have any ability or access to equipment needed to do the hunting/killing/butchering.
'-'
Then again, I could always secretly raise a chicken and eat the eggs - loathe as I am of eggs...
I'd probably have to find a chicken, though...since there would be no animal farms in this world.
Huh, that makes me wonder how clothes would be made, would wool not be allowed too?
5. An ideal world? You mean where we can eat meat and can't suffer from health complications from just eating it?
Hmm...
Probably as frequently as I usually do which isn't consistent.
'-'
Sometimes I'll have meat every day, sometimes I could go two or three days without any. It just depends on my mood.
'-'

X

 

[minacia]

What other kinds of food are available in this world with no meat?

They eat this tofu-like protein substitute that tastes like tofu. It's apparently very nutritious, albeit bland-tasting.

How much of this world is inhabited and regulated by laws? As in, is the whole world populated by sentient races, or is it a portion? If the latter, what's to stop someone from going to the wilderness far away from civilisation and living how they want to live?

You could go into the wilderness if you wanted to.

However, if someone stumbled upon your camp and saw you cooking meat, they would freak out like they found a cannibal in the woods.

If people don't eat meat, what's the view on killing an animal that attacks you?
What are their views on animals eating other animals? Or is this a world with no carnivores?

Self-defense is okay. Culturally though, even the idea of eating meat is unthinkable.

Like you can kill a human in self-defense if you're attacked by one, but obviously you wouldn't go and cook it...

Carnivores are frowned upon. Humans will sometimes protect wild herbivore animals from other carnivores. There are a lot more herbivore species in this universe than carnivores.

How long has the society been vegetarian?
They must have the concept of eating meat if it is seen as condemnable, so what is it that made the society become like that?

They've always been vegetarian!

It's just... a taboo... like eating human flesh is a taboo... I'm not sure if there's a reason why that taboo arose.

Huh, that makes me wonder how clothes would be made, would wool not be allowed too?

They ask the animals for permission! Also they depend a lot on plant-based textiles (i.e. cotton, linen)

Or well... it's kind of like walking up to a wild sheep.

If it runs away from you, it's assumed that it isn't giving permission.

If it doesn't run away, then well you can shear it lol.

 

[Yorda]

1. How long can you go without eating meat?
I could probably go a few months without going crazy. Since it's a meatless isekai I'm sure their vegetarian cooking is fine, but what if I was starving and poor to the point I couldn't afford good food? Then we have a problem.

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?
I would try to become a vegetarian because the punishment is too high otherwise.

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?
This sure is a strange world. Are there not even any carnivorous animals in this world? Are these people all elves who live off morning dew and honey or something? I would probably eat meat if I needed to and could get away with it, otherwise, I would certainly not for fear of punishment. If there was no fear of punishment, if I could survive alone even with the criticism of society and people were not able to harm or incarcerate me then I might eat meat. I don't know if all this vegetarianism is cultural or biological for these isekai people. We might not even be the same species, in which case I'm really screwed being forced to conform to an alien civilization/species' standards.

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?
I only know a little bit about skinning and bloodletting. I'm not sure about the exact term for draining blood from an animal. Removal of internal organs properly is somewhat difficult for me to do. I would at least be aware of the dangers of rupturing the wrong organs and spoiling the meat. At the very least I could manage to butcher easier parts of the animal and cook it thoroughly to avoid parasites.

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)
I try to be vegetarian every now and then but because I am so bad at cooking, I don't have a place to cook, and North American diets are high in animal based proteins it is difficult to feed myself correctly when I attempt vegetarianism.

 

[Avidya]

Sooo, if the world was run by PETA if you could take PETA at face value?

As the person above pointed out, lots of holes. If animals don’t fear humans, stuff like Lions, Tigers, Bears, any type of predator also wouldn’t fear humans. But at the same time, assuming no large animals or other predators, we only have to contend with ourselves.

Personally, I wouldn’t be able to stand it. Meat and Cheese are just too damn good, and if they don’t eat meat, any pseudo meat like the “impossible burgers” would probably be seen as heretical since it’s simulating eating animals.

Plus, the culinary just sounds boring in that case. If not even fish is allowed, Id be really questioning how humanity lasted long enough to form civilization without meat. It was only really recently relatively that humans cultivated a ton of edible plants.

and from your comments, it seems like they also don’t approve of animal products, so milk and cheese is also out most likely.

A world filled with the human equivalent of prissy, sparkly elves and PETA. No thanks. I’d probably prefer to live alone far from civilization as a hermit.

 

[Daitengu]

Question: Died and transmigrated. Do I get reborn as a local or have my original body restored?

If new body then I can easily give up meat. Hell I think the smell of meats in general are bad.

If the second route I would need serious help with a livable diet. Meat is just easier to get some nutrition required for living. Vegan life is doable as it's been practiced in India since before Christ, but it does require knowledge of diet. New world and all that. It's possible that the locals evolved to digest differently from humans, thus to live it may come down to being a criminal if there is no other way to live.

 

[lnv]

I'm procrastinating.

So basically you died and transmigrated to an isekai world, but a key feature about this world is that eating meat is as taboo as cannibalism. Everyone in this universe is vegan (no animal products allowed) and most countries it's illegal to eat meat.​

​

The punishment for being caught eating meat is extremely severe. It's treated exactly the same as human cannibalism, so it's considered worse than murder. If anybody found out that you eat meat, they would look at you in horror like you're a monster.​

​

Since humans in this world are all vegans and don't hunt animals, wild animals do not fear humans.​

​

Like you can literally go into the woods and pet a deer/squirrel/bird if you wanted to. ​

​

Incidentally, it's technically extremely easy to sneak out into the woods at night with a bow-and-arrow and kill some animals (and cook them), if you wanted to. The animals wouldn't run away, and although you would have to hide the body afterwards and make sure that there's no evidence that you did it.​

​

Alternatively... you could be good citizen and give up on meat forever.​

​

What do you do?​

1. How long can you go without eating meat?

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)

Everything tastes like chicken anyways so whats the difference? I hear china has been faking meat for thousands of years.

1. Indefinitely

2. I wouldn't care much

3. I am not a big meat eater, but I do like eating it. But I can live without it.

4. We can always recreate the taste of meat

5. There are days I don't eat meat already. I do eat some form of meat daily, mostly turkey since it is one of the healthier meats.

 

[Nahrenne]

They eat this tofu-like protein substitute that tastes like tofu. It's apparently very nutritious, albeit bland-tasting.

'-'
I've never had tofu but I wouldn't want to eat something bland.
I'm very particular about food tastes and textures, too.
orz

You could go into the wilderness if you wanted to.

However, if someone stumbled upon your camp and saw you cooking meat, they would freak out like they found a cannibal in the woods.

'-'
How would they know it's meat being cooked if they've never cooked it?
'-'
Wouldn't they be attracted by the smell?

Self-defense is okay. Culturally though, even the idea of eating meat is unthinkable.

Like you can kill a human in self-defense if you're attacked by one, but obviously you wouldn't go and cook it...

Carnivores are frowned upon. Humans will sometimes protect wild herbivore animals from other carnivores. There are a lot more herbivore species in this universe than carnivores.

'-'
I don't really see how this world can exist on an ecological scale if the food chain is so badly disrupted...

They've always been vegetarian!

It's just... a taboo... like eating human flesh is a taboo... I'm not sure if there's a reason why that taboo arose.

Um...humans used to be cannibals in the past, with there still being tribes today that practice it.
'-'
So...something has to have been tried for it to become a taboo in the first place - imo.

They ask the animals for permission! Also they depend a lot on plant-based textiles (i.e. cotton, linen)

Or well... it's kind of like walking up to a wild sheep.

If it runs away from you, it's assumed that it isn't giving permission.

If it doesn't run away, then well you can shear it lol.

'-'
I question the intelligence levels of these people.
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X

 

[placeintime]

Oh, I would definitely not last a day in the vegan isekai world. I would deisekai myself if I ever go to a vegan isekai XP

 

[Allarielle]

1. How long can you go without eating meat?
Probably indefinitely.

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?
IRL? It's mostly just a problem of access and education. Vegan/Vegetarian diets can be waaay more tasty than meat-based ones if you know what you're doing and have the energy to do it, but therein lies the problem, lol.

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?
Obviously not, especially if it meant I'd have to go out and hunt for/skin/prepare/etc all the meat myself.

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?
Know how? At an extremely basic level, probably? But there's a long range between 'can eat meat without poisoning myself' and 'can make meat taste good'.

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)
Depends, I guess. How ideal are we talking? In this world, I'd prefer to eat meat less just because of the ecological costs, though I still have a little every couple of days just so I get enough protein. If meat could be made in a way that didn't use up more than double the energy it produced and that didn't involve utterly inhumane factory farming methods, though, I'd probably want a little once a day or so? More if someone else is preparing the meals, lol. OTOH, the meat we have access to in most of the developed world IRL is of a much lower quality level than what you'd find in the wild, just because the diet and exercise of the animals isn't as good, so in a truly ideal world where the meat was actually good I couldn't really say.

 

[DreamOfRen]

As someone who no longer eats meat -- animal slavery is what it is.
You can get by completely without ever eating meat or consuming animal based *anything*.

Your body doesn't even produce the acids needed to break down meats if you were to stop eating meat for 1-2 weeks. Furthermore, you only have a few "meat eating teeth" in your mouth. The rest are used to chop and grind similar to herbivores. In other words, meat eating (in a natural sense) is a back up system designed for emergencies if you look at it from a scientific standpoint. Humans simply aren't equipped with all the facilities to be meat eaters, claws, fangs, etc.

Your body generally tends to function better without dairy, meat, etc from animals as well. In fact, when you cut out meats entirely from your diet your sense of taste becomes different too.

I can now smell the "decay" of flesh anytime I'm around meat. Its nauseating. I can also better taste chemicals in foods, so my sense of taste has sharpened substantially.

For example, when I did eat meat it would generally take me 5-7 days to recover from strenuous exercise.
Now it only takes less than 2 days. 3 at most. Professional athletes report the same.


You can attribute that to the amount of acid in your body. Acid contributes to rapid aging and deterioration of your internal organs and bodily environment. This is all scientifically proven stuff. The term they use is "free radicals". Essentially agents that go around damaging your body from within.

The cure for this? Antioxidants, which come from fruits and plants.

Animals are sentient, have their own ways of communicating and they can easily learn human language despite the fact that they can't speak it themselves. Pets are further evidence of this.

Would I go and get a pet crocodile? No. But many people do.

In short, realistically, there's no reason for a human to need to eat an animal except in a survival situation.

Civilization is way past that point already -- consumption of animals is no longer a necessity. People simply do it because they *want* to.

As per the posed question -- Yes, It wouldn't be an issue because I already do it.

 

[Angry_Clown]

Imma gonna be honest: the world described in the OP doesn't make any sense. Animals are, let's be honest, extremely dumb. If there are not enough predators to control the population, the herbivores will simply eat themselves and others to extinction (by breeding out of control and destroying their own food supply). This has happened many times IRL, most notably with deer.

The civilization of that word was obviously seeded as well, or the people of that word have wildly different biology to ours, which makes any food or even contact a horrible danger for both sides. Welcome unknown poisons, contaminants, and alien germs.

So, unless that world is extremely advanced (but then bow and arrow would be seen as strange, wouldn't they?) and getting sustenance there is both cheap and effortless, then going "vegan" is not a viable survival option for a human from Earth.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

I would miss it, but it's not all that important to me. I'm too lazy to go through the trouble of trying to hide the waste products from my kill. I mean, prepping and cooking the meat would be complicated enough.

I might munch down a few insects from time to time when nobody is looking, though.

 

[Deleted member 1244]

1. How long can you go without eating meat?
As long as I am there,

2. Would you ever consider becoming a vegetarian?
Sometimes

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?
If I grew up in that society? I would be used to it.... if I get thrown in

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?
Vaguely, yes, Only because I had to write about dressing an animal in a story.

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)
Food Pyramid.


@minacia
Fun fact (info at least and still a bit debated upon)
Did you know about the idea that Superman eventually grows up to be vegan/vegetarian?

Ok, so it's like this. FIrstly, Superman is not human, so technically eating human for him is not cannibalism. Superman in a way... eats light... he does not need any sustenance other than the light of earth's sun, not even oxygen I don't think(?)

And as a staunch advocate of all "life" (sentient life?) he does not like the idea of killing something to so sustain himself. But! When he is Clark Kent he has to pretend to be human. so he has to pretend to eat. And when he does do this, he pretends to be vegetarian.

While logical sound, and was written in Superman: Birthright (2003), due to the nature of comic books of reconning, whether the fact "Clark Kent is vegetarian" is canon or not.... it is still not a concrete fact.

 

[Ral]

1. How long can you go without eating meat?
Indefinitely. I actually really like to eat vegetables. I also like to eat meat but I could switch to a vegetarian diet no problem.

Also, a question. Is drinking milk okay? Also is eating fish okay? Eggs?

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?
Yes. The problem though is that a vegetarian diet is more difficult to plan and prepare than a regular diet. A lot of nutrients become difficult to acquire if you remove meat from your diet. There is a risk of getting malnourished and dying if you don't know what you are doing. This is getting easier though in these times. A lot of vegetarian stuff is actually pre-prepared (just like how meat are already butchered and cut) cutting down the effort to prepare them and there are supplements to fill the nutrition gaps.
3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?
No. In the first place, I have no problem with forgoing meat. Also, considering that they are a vegetarian based society, it would be easier to get vegetarian food than meat. The very ease itself (which is one of the biggest problem with vegetarian diet) would make it easier to forgo meat.

Not to mention, your body would get used to it and loose your cravings for meat. It is actually a proven fact.
4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?
I don't know much about butchering animals but I've seen how it is done. I could cook them.
5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)
I could easily go without meat no problem.

Food Pyramid.

Well, the Food Pyramid can be entirely vegetarian. Beans and nuts is grouped with meat and poultry. Legumes and nuts are actually the go to replacement of meat for protein and nutrients. And if you don't forgo dairy and fish and eggs, meat can be easily removed entirely.

 

[Deleted member 1244]

Well, the Food Pyramid can be entirely vegetarian. Beans and nuts is grouped with meat and poultry. Legumes and nuts are actually the go to replacement of meat for protein and nutrients. And if you don't forgo dairy and fish and eggs, meat can be removed entirely.

*nods*
Yeah... I also understand that to be a healthy vegan/vegetarian, one needs to do some homework to avoid malnutrition...

And I am a tad lazy or whimsical when cooking, so I just roughly hit all the major food groups and I know I got all the iron zinc and vitamins I need to live...

Since I like cooking and not getting to cook would not be my ideal world... what I mean by food pyramid, I mean... what is it? 20% of the weekly intake of foodstuff?

I probably can do meatless day(s), but that just one more thing for me to think about... and it would not be ideal...

 

[Maple-Leaf]

1. How long can you go without eating meat?
Physically, I'm not sure. Mentally, also not sure, but I don't think I'd crave it that hard.
2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?
Probably not. I've always imagined that if I got isekai'd, I would try not to care about anything and just treat it all like a game, or the end scene credits or something. I've already lived my life, no need to put in effort again, right? Plus my inner(?) chunni might enjoy seeming like some mysterious demon cannibal in the woods. I'd probably only get my act together after people try to burn me at the stake. If it was the typical "You're super OP after getting iseaki'd" Then they'd have an eternal cannibal on their hands.
3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?
Going with the demon cannibal route, yes. But as it's unlikely I'd be able to entirely disregard the public's opinions, probably not. I'd like to think I would, though.
4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?
And this is the part I'd probably back off at. I wouldn't be able properly prepare the meat, nor would I have enough skill to make it taste good. I'm better off just eating the long perfected recipes the world already has, vegan as they may be. Laziness will be the mysterious demon cannibal's falling, it seems.
5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)
Meh. I like meat, but if you removed it from my diet, I probably wouldn't notice. But to take the effort to remove the meat from my diet is something I'm too lazy to do. So honestly, I don't know.


This reminds me of the thing from Eragon where he switched to vegetarian after doing the meditation thingy (I haven't read it in ages, cut me some slack). Maybe seeing how close humanity is with animals and nature would make one lose their appetite.

 

[The_Long_Serpent]

I'm procrastinating.

So basically you died and transmigrated to an isekai world, but a key feature about this world is that eating meat is as taboo as cannibalism. Everyone in this universe is vegan (no animal products allowed) and most countries it's illegal to eat meat.​

​

The punishment for being caught eating meat is extremely severe. It's treated exactly the same as human cannibalism, so it's considered worse than murder. If anybody found out that you eat meat, they would look at you in horror like you're a monster.​

​

Since humans in this world are all vegans and don't hunt animals, wild animals do not fear humans.​

​

Like you can literally go into the woods and pet a deer/squirrel/bird if you wanted to. ​

​

Incidentally, it's technically extremely easy to sneak out into the woods at night with a bow-and-arrow and kill some animals (and cook them), if you wanted to. The animals wouldn't run away, and although you would have to hide the body afterwards and make sure that there's no evidence that you did it.​

​

Alternatively... you could be good citizen and give up on meat forever.​

​

What do you do?​

1. How long can you go without eating meat?

2. Would you ever consider becoming vegetarian?

3. Would you eat meat if all of society socially condemned you for it?

4. In this scenario, would you know how to butcher animals => cook them?

5. In an ideal world, how frequently would you eat meat? (i.e. Every day? Do you believe in having meatless days?)

I'd eat it if offered, and I'm generally very picky with food.

 

[BenJepheneT]

If there's a Whole Food there with a mini section for meat, I'll take it. If not, cannibalism it is