Feel like we have to eventually discuss this...

[Lysander_Works]

The future of SH, or perhaps the entire whole of the internet could change in less than a year, with what the governments have planned regarding digital ID.
I do not deem the subject political (as all parties are trying to push this regardless), and I don't want it to become a point of political discussion either.

The focus of the topic here, is the hypothetical question of, what users everywhere are to do, in the event that the basic internet, including SH, is forced to harden login credential protocols, like for example, blocking human users who don't want to share and leak gov IDs just to read or write on a platform. I wonder what that kind of future looks like specifically, and if there is anything we can do, in terms of contingency, for that future.

I'm the kind of author who, regardless of whether he gets paid, wants to have as many published works publicly visible with the lowest amount of guard walls, and for the longest amount of time. It would for example, make me roll over in my grave if, after I was gone, SH and RR were both shut down. The same could happen AO3 and archive org. How does an author keep the retention of their books alive, in any such event?

 

[DionysusWriter]

In terms of censorship, I don't trust SH, which is why I publish my work on several websites, particularly one that has fewer visits but is specifically designed to be non-censored.

Regarding individual accounts and the need for IDs, there will always be servers and hosting providers that don't require them, and you can also use a VPN.

 

[Sylver]

In terms of censorship, I don't trust SH, which is why I publish my work on several websites, particularly one that has fewer visits but is specifically designed to be non-censored.

Mind name dropping said websites for me?

 

[DionysusWriter]

I don't know if it's against the rules, so I sent it to you via PM.

 

[Lysander_Works]

In terms of censorship, I don't trust SH, which is why I publish my work on several websites, particularly one that has fewer visits but is specifically designed to be non-censored.

Regarding individual accounts and the need for IDs, there will always be servers and hosting providers that don't require them, and you can also use a VPN.

Send me those websites too, as I am interested.

> I feel like the VPN situation is only a temporary band-aid to a solution, as some officials want to also target the VPN companies as well. They are trying to (legally speaking), hold the website hosters accountable, which is not intelligent, but it more or less begs for an alternate that most people can agree upon.

Heck, I might live long enough to see an "illegal" version of the internet, and sites with users on it similar to SH, perhaps on a more general and grand scale, if we're lucky.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

I don't know if it's against the rules, so I sent it to you via PM.

me too!

I have a work that was in "book jail" for weeks, to see if it was too smutty for smut-hub.
it was approved finally, but...
that means my *raunchier* than that stuff, could use somewhere to post it.

PS - with traceable digital ID? I could finally track down my "invisible readers" finally?
how can you read a thousand pages, and not have the common courtesy to drop a review or a comment.
(that's a *hint*, invisible readers... a hint I tell you)

Heck, I might live long enough to see an "illegal" version of the internet, and sites with users on it similar to SH, perhaps on a more general and grand scale, if we're lucky.

Dark web smut-hub?
oh, do tell, do tell.
I love spooky stories !

you know, its funny.
They make the "dark... web..." sound so (ooh!) spooky...

christ almighty, its where all the traffic cams and baby monitors are at, LMAO

 

[Lysander_Works]

me too!

I have a work that was in "book jail" for weeks, to see if it was too smutty for smut-hub.
it was approved finally, but...
that means my *raunchier* than that stuff, could use somewhere to post it.

PS - with traceable digital ID? I could finally track down my "invisible readers" finally?
how can you read a thousand pages, and not have the common courtesy to drop a review or a comment.
(that's a *hint*, invisible readers... a hint I tell you)

Dark web smut-hub?
oh, do tell, do tell.
I love spooky stories !

you know, its funny.
They make the "dark... web..." sound so (ooh!) spooky...

christ almighty, its where all the traffic cams and baby monitors are at, LMAO

Fr. It's funny cause I haven't even heard anyone talk about how it will impact the "V-tuber" space. The ones who are very popular but also anonymous, will be doxxed anytime a databreach happens, and it will happen if such things get stored.

But yeah, sounds like a second internet might be born someday, if we survive the events to come.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

I don't know if it's against the rules, so I sent it to you via PM.

Can you name-drop them to me as well, please?

 

[Kitsuna]

In terms of censorship, I don't trust SH, which is why I publish my work on several websites, particularly one that has fewer visits but is specifically designed to be non-censored.

Regarding individual accounts and the need for IDs, there will always be servers and hosting providers that don't require them, and you can also use a VPN.

Now you're making all of us interested in said sites

 

[LiteraryWho]

In terms of censorship, I don't trust SH, which is why I publish my work on several websites, particularly one that has fewer visits but is specifically designed to be non-censored.

Regarding individual accounts and the need for IDs, there will always be servers and hosting providers that don't require them, and you can also use a VPN.

I am also curious. I know AO3 is pretty dedicated to anti-censorship, but I wouldn't think mentioning them is supposed to be risqué. Also, I don't think they qualify as "fewer visits" (unless I'm an accidental WN hipster, lol).

Also, as to on topic. Some of you don't know about i2p or monero, and it shows. Embrace the cypherpunk, become ungovernable.

 

[rileykifer]

Yeah, I'm strongly against all that's going on in terms of censorship and age bans/restrictions just because of the age verification being required. Luckily it hasn't hit where I'm at yet, but I've heard talk here of making it so you can't set up a computer without verifying your age (why???) which will probably involve having to upload your government ID. It's baffling that so many people are okay with this when just twenty years ago, people were reluctant to share their last name online. I could go into a long-winded rant on the subject so I'll stop there.

I don't think this will affect writing sites like this one that much- right now it looks like it's just for social media, and I don't think sites like this fall under it. (I know there's similar elements, but it's not the same imo.) Scribblehub isn't even a household name so I doubt the average government will target it. But if writing sites do get hit, I don't know what I'd do. I write under a pen name for a reason, and I value online privacy. I'm definitely not sharing that level of information with any writing website, so I might end up quitting. Not writing, but sharing my stuff online. Hopefully it won't come to that.

 

[AliceMoonvale]

I don't know if it's against the rules, so I sent it to you via PM.

Well, if you read the forum rules, you'll see there's nothing about listing other similar websites unless they're obviously porn or otherwise shady.
People talk about A03 and Royal Road all the time. I've even listed fanfiction.net or fictionpress.
So, feel free to list them if there is nothing wrong with them.

 

[Lysander_Works]

I don't think this will affect writing sites like this one that much

Through an unexpected technicality, it can affect most websites.
Currently, Google is trying to reshape their Re-captcha anti-bot system to force users to not only solve the puzzle with an active GSM phone (by means similar to 2FA), but also a device that, in some way or another, connects to their play-service network, or by means of third party captcha app-data reporting. And yeah, I'm sure they'll tie in the ID upload after that point. Regular cloudflare has not tried this yet, but I'm not gonna hold my breath thinking they won't.
My point of this was to say, it isn't just the websites, but any 3rd party anything that they use that could become a vector for age-verification mass surveillance.
At least, I'm glad we don't use the G-Recaptcha system rn.

 

[Nevafrost]

I don't know if it's against the rules, so I sent it to you via PM.

Can you send them to me as well?

 

[Alski]

I can see it coming to any platform that deals directly with money and the social media circle, but not places like this. But the governments doing it need to keep up with the times and actually make an easy to use online identification.

 

[Corty]

 

[JayMark]

It will start as the end of the illusion of internet anonymity. (It's not a real thing now anyway).
It will put the mechanism (more robust) in place for mass censorship and surveillance.
And finally the enforcement mechanism for top down control.

It's going to be done sooner or later.
The elites don't like it when us cattle get uppity.
They have to protect the children (on their magic islands) by keeping us in line.

The vast majority of the populations are domesticated lambs waiting to be led to the slaughter, so nothing can be done to stop it.
But sites like ScribbleHub will likely exist, with all the content moderated by the state.