AI assistance in personal messages?

[LiteraryWho]

I think I'd rather cut out my own tongue, tbh. Your flaws are as much a part of you as your virtues. Using a machine to sand them away is fake and gay as hell.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

I recently ran a text message through an AI Gen Z slang translator. It returned the expected slang terms but

^^^this is a direct quote from the OriginalPost (OP)

English to French? Where did you catch that from?

When I needed french words and phrases for a project, I used "english to french" online translator.
When OP needed "young kid slang" he used... bum bum bum... "english to GenZ slang" online translator.

I don't speak french and OP doesn't speak "young kid"

I knew I was posting this question on one of the most vehemently anti AI populated forums there is. I was just wondering what the opinion of AI would be when it didn't directly affect literature. I really never intended to kick the Hornet's nest. But now that the stingers are out, I think I'm gonna head for the hills. Thanks for the feedback.

there's a part of me that wonders what a random paragraph of my writing would be turned into, using that translator.
then another part of me sees two characters in my book making jokes about doing it.
it is like a foreign language sometimes.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

When I needed french words and phrases for a project, I used "english to french" online translator.
When OP needed "young kid slang" he used... bum bum bum... "english to GenZ slang" online translator.

I don't speak french and OP doesn't speak "young kid"

Ahh, so that's what you meant, lol. I thought I had missed something.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Ahh, so that's what you meant, lol. I thought I had missed something.

are you german? just curious.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

are you german? just curious.

Aye.

You always sounded kind of AIish~.

That is true. And upon reading his last response, after not checking back for a while, I realized that's the weirdo I had an argument in another thread with the other day. Not that I care, but what in the pussified retreat is that supposed to be? Nobody was even mean to him.

 

[LiteraryWho]

Aye.

The horror of being seen, lmao.

 

[seavmun88]

I think I'd rather cut out my own tongue, tbh. Your flaws are as much a part of you as your virtues. Using a machine to sand them away is fake and gay as hell.

great argument for why spellcheck should never be used. it's literally the same thing as asking an ai to babysit your writing lol

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

Aye.

That is true. And upon reading his last response, after not checking back for a while, I realized that's the weirdo I had an argument in another thread with the other day. Not that I care, but what in the pussified retreat is that supposed to be? Nobody was even mean to him.

Mine was just a general remark. I have seen them a few times already. And I always I had the impression they are a chatbot~.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

Mine was just a general remark. I have seen them a few times already. And I always I had the impression they are a chatbot~.

Could be true. I'm normally not so fast in passing judgement on that, but mainly because I know people like that and have known them for long enough to know that they are, in fact, real. So, yeah, dumbassness is a thing, it doesn't have to be a bot. Just a loofah with legs, perchance.

 

[JHarp]

Is it better to speak in your own words

Humans routinely operate on symbol manipulation without full semantic grounding allowing for fluency to exceed explicit understanding.
Or rather, people use words constantly without understanding them and yet they can still sound fluent.

English as a language has adopted a ton of words, what are the 'english' words for:
Sushi, tsunami, alcohol, cafe, cuisine, graffiti, canyon, kindergarten, angst, patio, piano, opera, volcano, safari, jungle.

All of those originate from different languages but we 'consider' them english even though they are all directly loan words.

Your 'own words', your idiolect, is just what you happen to have been exposed to, learned and chosen to use in the moment.

an AI Gen Z slang translator

why spellcheck should never be used. it's literally the same thing as asking an ai

Can we like, put a bit of basic thought into this?

Spellcheck and most translators are constrained algorithms, they aren't designed to learn or take over the planet. That's why we invented most of the systems we still use today decades ago.

LLMs are generative models trained on large datasets, treating them the same is massively reductive to an entire industry.
By that same logic a basic 'hello world' script would count as 'AI' in the same sense which makes the term useless.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

Was als Spaß begann, ist zu einem kindischen Verhalten von Leuten geworden, die eigentlich klug genug wären, es besser zu wissen. Manche von euch sollten sich schämen. Wenn ihr euch für euer eigenes Verhalten nicht schämt, schäme ich mich für euch.

I just realized that I don't know off the top of my head if it's okay to even write in a different language here. For some reason, your German seems a bit forced; kind of unnatural. But maybe I'm just imagining it.
Either way, I assume you mean me, otherwise, why German after you asked if I was German? I also suspect @Assurbanipal_II could be German, and I also believe you might mean her as well. But I'm unsure.
But to state the facts: He annoyed me in another thread and after saying things that are actively in bad faith, he acted like the victim and buggered off. Whatever. Now he opened up a discussion, got hardly any responses and buggered off again. That, I commented on after he was already gone, because it's literally the moment I even realized it was that same guy (I had already long forgotten about him).
And @Assurbanipal_II just said he sounded like a chatbot. Which, well, I don't technically think so. But that's because I don't ever assume that, no matter how people act, because I've known all sorts of people online, from long before ChatGPT was a thing, that were just like this. No matter if they acted dumb or straight up weird - they were still real.
Anyway, that's hardly something I need to be ashamed of and nobody really said much to him in the first place. I can't tell what it was that made him act like someone in heavy crossfire again, but maybe you will enlighten me.

 

[Bimbanana]

AI is great! I can understand when people talks in deutsch!

I think I'd rather cut out my own tongue, tbh. Your flaws are as much a part of you as your virtues. Using a machine to sand them away is fake and gay as hell.

Welp, i guess you never have to deal with a foreign business partner

 

[Alski]

I just realized that I don't know off the top of my head if it's okay to even write in a different language here.

The forum is english only
https://www.scribblehubforum.com/threads/forum-rules.5/#post-12

 

[TheKillingAlice]

The forum is english only
https://www.scribblehubforum.com/threads/forum-rules.5/#post-12

Yeah, I thought so. I accidentally replied in German first, then overwrote everything when it came to mind.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

AI is great! I can understand when people talks in deutsch!

i know, ain't this a f*cking kick?
I feel like a little kid again, I got my secret decoder ring out. I have to read the secret message sent back to me.
I'm like.. a spy and shit. this is so fun...

Bist du sicher, dass er weggelaufen ist? Bei Diskussionen hier werden Leute manchmal gesperrt. Er ist kein Chatbot. Er ist mein Beta-Leser, und die wachsen nicht auf Bäumen. Ich bin sehr froh, einen zu haben. Und er fühlte sich wahrscheinlich angegriffen, weil neun Leute gleichzeitig angefangen haben, sich über ihn lustig zu machen. Ich weiß, ihr hattet schon in einem anderen Thread Streit. Und jetzt dieser. Können wir das jetzt beenden? Schluss. Schluss heißt, dass es im nächsten Thread nicht wieder losgeht.

The forum is english only

the novels are english only, that's a rule.
But... I have *definitely* seen foreign google-translated posts used, for humor before.
which is what this is.

I am going by precedent.

The forum is english only
https://www.scribblehubforum.com/threads/forum-rules.5/#post-12

(sorry. couldn't help it. old computer room joke. its a fake german sign, meant to be funny. enjoy.)

AI is great! I can understand when people talks in deutsch!

oh, bad move.
you're not allowed to do *anything* with AI, or... the cool kids will all make fun of you.
be careful.
LMAO.
but yeah, I had fun with AI - translate.
sue me.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

Bist du sicher, dass er weggelaufen ist? Bei Diskussionen hier werden Leute manchmal gesperrt. Er ist kein Chatbot. Er ist mein Beta-Leser, und die wachsen nicht auf Bäumen. Ich bin sehr froh, einen zu haben. Und er fühlte sich wahrscheinlich angegriffen, weil neun Leute gleichzeitig angefangen haben, sich über ihn lustig zu machen. Ich weiß, ihr hattet schon in einem anderen Thread Streit. Und jetzt dieser. Können wir das jetzt beenden? Schluss. Schluss heißt, dass es im nächsten Thread nicht wieder losgeht.

First of all: You should probably stop writing German, it makes me nervous somehow, since it's against the rules.
Second: Again, I never said he was a bot, I just agreed he sounded like one at times, which is my opinion to hold. And no... he buggered off after calling in his retreat first - both times. And why would he have been banned? For what? It was his Thread. In fact, WE might be the onne getting in trouble, because we are kind of derailing the Thread.
Third: Now I'm quite sure you meant me, since you answered, but why do you not @ me? I noticed both messages because the page was still open and I just refreshed it. But I don't even know why you would tell me this, since I said somethin after he was already out.
And even if I wasn't the one you meant - actually read the posts and tell me: How did anyone make fun of him? Especially nine people at once. Did they all delete their posts?
He asked a question and people answered. He himself claimed, from the first post, that he knew it was a sensitive topic here.
Fourth: Everyone is someone to somebody out there. Your connection to him has no bearing on me - or anyone else here, for that matter. So me saying something to him or not is not up to you to decide.

And even if he really felt attacked, why would that have anything to do with his relationship with you? That seems like a silly thing to worry about.
No, wait, there was one comment that seemed to make fun of him personally, not the way he typed, but kind about maybe his age, that he needed some translator to sound like a Zoomer. Right, that was... you.
Oh, maybe you SHOULD worry about him dropping you, after all. Just kidding. But for real: Nobody was making fun of him; in fact, considering the topic, people have been extremely nice and sincere in their replies. So what's the fucking issue?

 

[Bimbanana]

it makes me nervous somehow, since it's against the rules.

speak like a true Germans

 

[TinaMigarlo]

First of all: You should probably stop writing German, it makes me nervous somehow, since it's against the rules.
Second: Again, I never said he was a bot, I just agreed he sounded like one at times, which is my opinion to hold. And no... he buggered off after calling in his retreat first - both times. And why would he have been banned? For what? It was his Thread. In fact, WE might be the onne getting in trouble, because we are kind of derailing the Thread.
Third: Now I'm quite sure you meant me, since you answered, but why do you not @ me? I noticed both messages because the page was still open and I just refreshed it. But I don't even know why you would tell me this, since I said somethin after he was already out.
And even if I wasn't the one you meant - actually read the posts and tell me: How did anyone make fun of him? Especially nine people at once. Did they all delete their posts?
He asked a question and people answered. He himself claimed, from the first post, that he knew it was a sensitive topic here.
Fourth: Everyone is someone to somebody out there. Your connection to him has no bearing on me - or anyone else here, for that matter. So me saying something to him or not is not up to you to decide.

And even if he really felt attacked, why would that have anything to do with his relationship with you? That seems like a silly thing to worry about.
No, wait, there was one comment that seemed to make fun of him personally, not the way he typed, but kind about maybe his age, that he needed some translator to sound like a Zoomer. Right, that was... you.
Oh, maybe you SHOULD worry about him dropping you, after all. Just kidding. But for real: Nobody was making fun of him; in fact, considering the topic, people have been extremely nice and sincere in their replies. So what's the fucking issue?

gee. you sound so... fragile.

 

[TheKillingAlice]

gee. you sound so... fragile.

Sure I am. So, in other words, what I said about him.
But when I said it, you made a fuss. Got it.

speak like a true Germans

I didn't even realize that. Damn, bro.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

@TheKillingAlice :
all in fun. we're even.
by the way... I'm particularly jealous of your *animated* spoiler text
its pretty cool.