AI assisted, a vague term on purpose.

[NotaNuffian]

So while AI generated work should definitely be flagged, should AI assisted works too be flagged?

My stance is yes, but is using AI to do research and occasionally brainstorming consider AI assisted?

Because I do that tons of time. Even in my own office work.

As a subpar hobbist "writer", I have been using AI to give me some ideas from time to time for plot progression, world building to power levels.

 

[Wamba2K]

I think it's too broad a spectrum to put so simply. Some people argue that even using something like Grammarly is ai assisted. I think at the end of the day it comes down to a case-by-case basis. Personally, I don't use any ai. And I don't think what you describe should count as ai assisted. I think if the ai is writing significant chunks of your story and you're only editing around that or adding bits, that's ai assisted. But again others would disagree.
That's my two pennies.

 

[Avarice_Of_The_Seven]

Yes, I am confused about the boundaries of "AI assisted" tag as well.

Like, who doesn't do research on the internet. If you ask AI for ideas then AI too will search through the internet. AI can't generate new information out of nothing, after all.
I personally use AI to come up with names and terms for my story, I don't go beyond that cuz AI will give suggestions that will be too cringy for me.
I wonder if that counts as AI assisted. if I do the same through web search then does that mean it won't?

 

[Alski]

IMO if you get it to rewrite anything for you thats AI assisted. Brainstorming is fine as long as you write it in your words afterwards.

 

[AliceMoonvale]

I use chatgpt like a google search / notepad. I search/brainstorm things or dump my thoughts on it to go back later if I need it.
Almost like an interactive journal that I can ask questions.

Though, I think if you use ai to help you get ideas or a baseline of what you want to do, that's fine.
Long as you don't copy/paste what the ai writes, just rewrite your own version.

For example, I asked what are some examples of describing a certain sound in writing. It gave me ideas, most were cringe, but it helped me understand and come up with my own ideas/interpretation. Kinda like an 'ah-ha' moment. And true, I could just use google, but I don't like being linked to reddit posts or viewing other weird sites.

Chatgpt can suffer the horrors for me.

 

[Macha]

Using AI for research is the same with using Google. But it's retarded. Use at your own risk. Things like research and grammar checking shouldn't be AI-assisted because you are still the one writing the story.

If you are lazy and use it to rewrite or improve a few sections for you instead of asking it how to do that, it's AI-assisted. Of course it refuses to do that. Stupid ClosedAI and their censorship.

 

[JayMark]

Using AI for research is the same with using Google. But it's retarded. Use at your own risk. Things like research and grammar checking shouldn't be AI-assisted because you are still the one writing the story.

If you are lazy and use it to rewrite or improve a few sections for you instead of asking it how to do that, it's AI-assisted. Of course it refuses to do that. Stupid ClosedAI and their censorship.

Doing a google search always brings up the AI now. Don't take the AI information at face value, look for reliable sources and cross reference multiple sources.

 

[Blingbee]

Controversial opinion here. Don't care if it's AI assisted if it reads well. As a reader I want the book or story to be good. It needs to be engaging. I am more concerned about the story, characters etc.

Would prefer an AI generated story over a badly written human one.

I don't write. Just speaking as a consumer.

I'll run away now

 

[NotaNuffian]

Controversial opinion here. Don't care if it's AI assisted if it reads well. As a reader I want the book or story to be good. It needs to be engaging. I am more concerned about the story, characters etc.

Would prefer an AI generated story over a badly written human one.

I don't write. Just speaking as a consumer.

I'll run away now

Same thinking as you.

I shall run too.

 

[L1aei]

IMO if you get it to rewrite anything for you thats AI assisted. Brainstorming is fine as long as you write it in your words afterwards.

I'm sorry for laughing. It's not directed at your message, but the little mistake with "thats" in your sentence. See, I just found it funny because if I right click on that to simply select an auto-correct solution to replace "thats" with "that's" or "that is," then I'm suddenly tagging my response as "AI Assisted," right?

 

[Envylope]

You're all wrong. Only Ai assisted is when @Ai-chan helps you write.

 

[NotaNuffian]

You're all wrong. Only Ai assisted is when @Ai-chan helps you write.

Ah.

 

[Alski]

I'm sorry for laughing. It's not directed at your message, but the little mistake with "thats" in your sentence. See, I just found it funny because if I right click on that to simply select an auto-correct solution to replace "thats" with "that's" or "that is," then I'm suddenly tagging my response as "AI Assisted," right?

I wouldn't consider that AI assisted, spelling and grammar checkers have been around for longer than most of you have been alive.

 

[L1aei]

I wouldn't consider that AI assisted, spelling and grammar checkers have been around for longer than most of you have been alive.

That's my point and it's hilarious to watch readers and writers or just plain people draw these razor-thin, do-not-touch-or-get-cut arbitrary lines around AI usage when the reality is... well, like you said, AI has been doing assisted work forever. Spellcheck, thesauruses, Google searches, even auto-correct; they're all AI in a very mild, socially acceptable form. Yet somehow the second anyone lets GPT give a writer of any form a sentence or idea, alarm bells ring.

From my perspective and I hope others see this too, auto-correct is just scripted pattern recognition pulling from a database of past corrections. Sound familiar? That's still automation. AI is the same thing at a higher resolution. If I fix one apostrophe with a an auto-correct tool (remember "thats"), I'm fine; but if I get help shaping a paragraph, suddenly I've crossed into forbidden territory? That's... what the hell is that? I don't believe there is a single-worded term for this.

Fine, I'll call it an oddly selective moral panic.

Look, this is the classic difference people pretend exists between using a hammer to hang a picture and using a hammer to build a house. Same tool. Different scale. Same damned assistance. And yes, it is damned by those who keep bringing torches and pitchforks to anyone who wields a hammer in public.

We've normalized auto-correct so fucking thoroughly that people forget an valuable point: it's doing work for them. Now the tool is smarter, and suddenly we have the umpteenth thread to request everyone to draw lines in the sand.

Yeah... hypocrisy wrapped in a grammar debate.

 

[Alski]

Well i already drew my imaginary line in the sand with my first post for this thread.

 

[L1aei]

Well i already drew my imaginary line in the sand with my first post for this thread.

That's a cute kitty.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Well i already drew my imaginary line in the sand with my first post for this thread.

That's a cute kitty.

Endeed.

 

[JordanIda]

I don't use AI for writing. I don't use grammar checkers. I don't even trust MS Word spellcheck; too many false flags. (Though I do use the spellchecker as a first pass.) But I'm not against others using AI or grammar checkers. As little or as much as you're comfortable with.

 

[Arkus86]

I think if the ai is writing significant chunks of your story and you're only editing around that or adding bits, that's ai assisted. But again others would disagree.

I disagree. What you describe, I would classify as AI-generated. It's not really assistance if AI does the bulk of the work for you. AI-assisted would be if you write the story, but have the AI edit or translate it for you.

 

[Our_Lady_in_Twilight]

I suppose one distinction that could be developed is that there is an objectively correct way to spell something (by convention). It makes more sense to delegate that out to a minion. Art and creativity isn't about adherence to a rule, but about expressing yourself.

So once you start delegating away the opportunities to express your own individuality, the thousand little distinctions in scene choice, rythmn and metaphor that make the piece 'yours', then what you are doing is bartering away your opportunity to express yourself artistically