On a practice I have noticed as being somewhat common.

[Juia_Darkcrest]

Ehh, usually you don't even need to tear it to pieces, most web novels fall apart on their own. But I digress.

How dare you! My works resemble that remark! ?

 

[IMWPersonal]

I mean... I did apologise about that part. My mistake.
Also. I am just a forum mod. The best I can do is to bring attention to something I or the community finds suspicious.

And wow... You are actually just being a dick out of choice.
I mean, okay. I have nothing to say to that.
Instead of helping, giving input or commenting really, you just give low ratings.
... to do what exactly?
I mean, really. Why? It is a genuine question.
If you are just giving a bad rating to everything without explaining anything how exactly are you different from a troll?

I don’t think I’m intentionally being a dick. I mean everything I say as neutrally as possible.
As far as me not giving feed back? I already do that for a living and would much rather spare that effort for helping the people who work for me or that I manage.

I’ve tried to give helpful reviews a few times before but stopped after the 8th time of maxing the word count. There are genuine, foundational, problems with so many of the books on this website. Most of them need more than a quick hint.

 

[Enkiari]

I don’t think I’m intentionally being a dick. I mean everything I say as neutrally as possible.
As far as me not giving feed back? I already do that for a living and would much rather spare that effort for helping the people who work for me or that I manage.

I’ve tried to give helpful reviews a few times before but stopped after the 8th times of maxing the word count. There are genuine, foundational, problems with so many of the books on this website. Most of them need more than a quick hint.

But can you see how your actions would invoke anger from others? How they can be perceived as unfair?
Not only that, but you came to forums to cry about THEM being in the wrong when you are the one giving unexplained low ratings to pretty much all stories you have added to your list.
And your intentions are also just malicious at this point.
You just want to make others feel bad.
In the end, you are just a random unpleasant person.
I am still not sure what your goals are...
You somehow avoided answering the very direct question I asked so I will do it again.
WHY?

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

I don’t think I’m intentionally being a dick. I mean everything I say as neutrally as possible.
As far as me not giving feed back? I already do that for a living and would much rather spare that effort for helping the people who work for me or that I manage.

I’ve tried to give helpful reviews a few times before but stopped after the 8th times of maxing the word count. There are genuine, foundational, problems with so many of the books on this website. Most of them need more than a quick hint.

The problem is that giving a shit star doesn't help anyone if you dont tell them why their work is shit...

Most of us Novice writers never get a lot of feedback, so we will just keep writing with minimal improvements if we dont get some negative commentary

 

[expentio]

I got blocked on RoyalRoad by an author because of commenting.
I absolutely swear, I didn't say anything too harsh. I only said I didn't fully buy a scene, where two muggers are directly about to kill a girl by slicing her throat, right next to the main street, after she struggles a bit with them.
Before another one, that wasn't as criticising, I just tend to ask questions when I find something like a pothole, but am usually open to being convinced otherwise. Seriously, it's not meant as harassment.
Still, I got blocked under the pretext that I "could" leave a bad review after saying non-positive things. Apparently, RR even has a system that it blocks your ability to make a review after a block, only if you commented in the story before. Which I find absolutely ridiculous, that those invested in it are the ones who shouldn't say anything about it. Was my first and only block, and I'm still a little pissed.

 

[Alski]

As is, you have spent 4 days on site. I can't currently check, but based on others here you have poorly rated around 25 stories per day.
Assuming you DID read at least 3 chapters per story and the average chapter length was 2k words (which is a normal amount for webnovels), then you have spent a lot of time just shitting on others.
Let's see... A fast-ish reader reads 2k words in around 5min. You read 75 chapters per day and gave them rating.
5min x 75chapters = 6.25hours.
I will be generous and assume you are a very fast reader and won't account for the time spent in searching the novels and rating them.

So i decided to have a look at his dislikes list an its so much worse, hes read on average about 15 chapters of each.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I don’t think I’m intentionally being a dick.

You should get back and read my previous reply to understand why you got into hot waters. Granted, you are really not a troll. If you follow my advice, you will still get a lot of flak, BUT, at least you will have enough credibility to point out you are not troll, and won't get your ratings\reviews deleted... probably.

 

[IMWPersonal]

But can you see how your actions would invoke anger from others? How they can be perceived as unfair?
Not only that, but you came to forums to cry about THEM being in the wrong when you are the one giving unexplained low ratings to pretty much all stories you have added to your list.
And your intentions are also just malicious at this point.
You just want to make others feel bad.
In the end, you are just a random unpleasant person.
I am still not sure what your goals are...
You somehow avoided answering the very direct question I asked so I will do it again.
WHY?

If they were angry then they could have messaged me like someone else has.

When did I whine about anything? I brought up something I noticed, that was it.

How can I explain the low ratings when they blocked me within 30 minutes? I brought this entire thing up because 4 times (7 times now) I’ve gone to a book I rated only to not be able to leave a review or even comment. I tried to go to the writers/translators profile and message them but I couldn’t even do that.
It takes time to give a decent review, the only review I made is shit because I had 3 minutes to write it before I was blocked.

Now is where I am being genuinely annoyed. How am I being malicious? The only thing I’ve done is bring forward a topic and replied to comments. Any perceived malfeasance is on your end.
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So i decided to have a look at his dislikes list an its so much worse, hes read on average about 15 chapters of each.

15 chapters is more than enough to get a good idea about the grammar, characters, setting, and writing style. If it’s not going good after that then it probably won’t get any better for a while.

 

[Enkiari]

If they were angry then they could have messaged me like someone else has.

... so... you are just... not gonna answer my question?
Why not?

When did I whine about anything? I brought up something I noticed, that was it.

"Writers are pansies" doesn't ring a bell? And the thread itself. Those can be interpreted as whining. For me, it is just whining.

How can I explain the low ratings when they blocked me within 30 minutes? I brought this entire thing up because 4 times (7 times now) I’ve gone to a book I rated only to not be able to leave a review or even comment. I tried to go to the writers/translators profile and message them but I couldn’t even do that.
It takes time to give a decent review, the only review I made is shit because I had 3 minutes to write it before I was blocked.

Read again what you just said and bonk yourself. Maybe it will make you understand it doesn't make sense.
"I gave rating without explaining anything to 100 stories and people blocked me before I could explain anything."
Okay, random person. 4 times (7 times now since this thread is gaining traction) you were blocked from giving feedback on... 100 stories.
At least try to make it believable. This is just crap.

Now is where I am being genuinely annoyed. How am I being malicious? The only thing I’ve done is bring forward a topic and replied to comments. Any perceived malfeasance is purely on your end.

Gives 100 (yes, yes. It's not exactly 100. But is sounds nice and is close enough) stories 1 star, explains nothing, then complains about it and can't see how it can be perceived as malicous.
Wow.
I feel like I have pointed out why you are being a dick well enough.
Now. Answer my question.
Why are you doing it the way you are doing?

 

[Alski]

15 chapters is more than enough to get a good idea about the grammar, characters, setting, and writing style. If it’s not going good after that then it probably won’t get any better for a while.

That i agree with, but when you are reading 300+ chapters per day of hot garbage i have to question why you are doing this to yourself?

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

That i agree with, but when you are reading 300+ chapters per day of hot garbage i have to question why you are doing this to yourself?

Masochist

 

[JayDirex]

Masochist

He ain't no masochist, he's a troll one starring people's stories on an Amateur writing website, like he's doing someone a favor. MFR, you are nothing but a cvck up here messing with people's stories and acting like you're doing god's work itself, then have the audacity to WHINE about you being a victim in the forums like a true scumbag troll.
these Admins people are too nice, i would have long since banned you, you slack jawed clown @IMWPersonal

 

[IMWPersonal]

... so... you are just... not gonna answer my question?
Why not?

"Writers are pansies" doesn't ring a bell? And the thread itself. Those can be interpreted as whining. For me, it is just whining.

Read again what you just said and bonk yourself. Maybe it will make you understand it doesn't make sense.
"I gave rating without explaining anything to 100 stories and people blocked me before I could explain anything."
Okay, random person. 4 times (7 times now since this thread is gaining traction) you were blocked from giving feedback on... 100 stories.
At least try to make it believable. This is just crap.

Gives 100 (yes, yes. It's not exactly 100. But is sounds nice and is close enough) stories 1 star, explains nothing, then complains about it and can't see how it can be perceived as malicous.
Wow.
I feel like I have pointed out why you are being a dick well enough.
Now. Answer my question.
Why are you doing it the way you are doing?

Before I write the rest of the reply I want to say that you may have not read some parts of my comments.
I answered the question first reply after you asked. The reason I haven’t given reviews is because the word count is small, like 1k characters small.

That becomes a problem when you need to account for the fact that many of the people I‘m talking about outright say they use AI because they’re conversational at best, aren’t native speakers, only learned English form tutors, etc…. So I need to write in an education level 3 about levels lower from what I’m used to. (not trying to be a dick with that, I’m married to someone with a master’s, have a PhD, and mostly talk to people I went to uni with that have, guess what, more master’s and Ph-fucking-D’s). I also need to use less words to cover more information, which is hard when most of the ways to do so involve writing to a degree that you can’t with people who may or may not be fluent. I could solve this by only covering one topic but how do you choose which topic to cover when there are 4 or 5 equally important topics? How do you give examples, do you pick a single chapter that was particularly bad in a topic? How do you do that without giving spoilers? And after that point I usually give up because it’s some dude on the internet and I don’t want to, or in some cases physically can’t, take 30-40 minutes writing a review.

Much of that sounded condescending but I had no negative intent. Aside from maybe a bit of exasperation from remembering the situations, being in the situation (just lost like 200 words of this), and from people being so fixated on something not relevant to the original question.

 

[Eldoria]

Do you guys have any thoughts on this? Do you see it as something that should be encouraged or something that is unethical?

First, I won't rate or review novels that I haven't read them.

Second, I won't rate novels I haven't finished—don't expect to get a rating from the prologue and the first five chapters. I tend to judge novels holistically.

Third, I don't factor in preferences when giving a rating of 1 /5, because the MC is of a certain race or religion.

Fourth, I will only give a rating of 1 to novels that betray the story's premise. For example, you promise a wholesome family fantasy novel but halfway through the story, you present a clichéd romance. Seriously, my friends, this is narrative betrayal. I ordered the steak as promised, but you gave me a salad. No one likes investing time, thought, or even money only to be lied to.

Fifth, I never rate novels outside my preferences. Don't expect me to rate smut novels disguised as fantasy. Or extreme novels like BL. I won't even bother reading the synopsis once I see the genres.

Sixth, I will only rate novels that suit my preferences. My favorite genre is dark fantasy, with a family/sibling theme. It can be mixed with other friendly genres such as action, adventure, mystery, SoL and only a little tolerated as a subplot like romance.

Seventh, I used to enjoy rating and reviewing when I was an active member of NU, but now at SH, my energy is drained by being an author. So don't expect me to rate novels too much.

Lastly, for anyone who gives a rating of 1/5:

1. Try to ask yourself, is it worth giving such a low rating?
2. Have you finished reading the novel or is it just a momentary emotion (hate) after reading a certain chapter?
3. Are you able to make a novel as good as the one you read (writing a novel is not easy, especially without support from anyone, whether material or immaterial. You have to write patiently for months or even years)?
4. Even if you are forced to give a rating of 1, what is the reason?

You should explain the reason by sending a personal message to the author, so the author can revise the mistake. Giving a low rating to a novel without a clear reason is like throwing stones and hiding your hand. That's irresponsible, my friends.

 

[IMWPersonal]

That i agree with, but when you are reading 300+ chapters per day of hot garbage i have to question why you are doing this to yourself?

People are drastically over playing how much I read. I read maybe 300 chapters total, over the course of 10-12 days.

 

[Shiyon]

I am reading stuff, and then rating based on Plot, Characters, Setting, Grammar, and Writing style. If they do one of them to an ok level (ex: Grammar being around the level required for passing required schooling) then I do half a star. If they do it to a “good” level (ex: Grammar varies depending on the character) then I give a full star. Seeing as this doesn’t have half star ratings I usually round down (most of the 1 star reviews are really 1.5).

This is a fucking stupid system.

Lets say someone makes absolutely excellent characters, has okay plot and character and generally fine grammar, just with a few stylistic errors or whatever random way you'd rate 'writing style', that's somehow worthy of a 2 star?
what about a great plot and setting, but the rest ok? ah yes, 3 stars, perfectly mediocre.
This is such a rigid, nonsensical way of rating things, extremely negative too. Would it not be fair to at least round up half the time and round down the other half depending on which you think would be overall more fitting. Hell, even using 1 star as base and crediting 0.4-0.8 on each category, rounding up and down depending on proximity to the next nearest number would be infinitely more fair.

It seems that despite your linguistics degree and your oh so excellent work with selling a hundred thousand books you cannot help but be a cynical retard who made a rating system so bad the average 3rd grader would laugh at it.

Not to even mention how idiotic it is to expect a writer to do everything to the utmost perfection. Some writers are specialist, they do 1 thing really good and you just piss all over it for no good reason.

Yeah, you deserve all the blocks you can get.

 

[IMWPersonal]

You should explain the reason by sending a personal message to the author, so the author can revise the mistake. Giving a low rating to a novel without a clear reason is like throwing stones and hiding your hand. That's irresponsible, my friends.

That’s parts of this entire discussion. How can people give reviews, message authors, or leave comments when they get blocked so quickly? Literally had someone block me in the time it took take a piss.

 

[Enkiari]

Before I write the rest of the reply I want to say that you may have not read some parts of my comments.
I answered the question first reply after you asked. The reason I haven’t given reviews is because the word count is small, like 1k characters small.

Yeah, so... Just a troll at this point. It just sounds like "I wanted to shit on them so much I got constipated and just hit them instead."
Wow. Not a dick move at all. (This is sarcasm btw)
I dismissed this point as it was laughably bad in my eyes before. Welp. I was wrong. You are just that malicious.
You deserve all the negativity coming your way.
Well, it was entertaining to humour you.

 

[blackcrowcrowd]

People are drastically over playing how much I read. I read maybe 300 chapters total, over the course of 10-12 days.

Your account is 4 days old

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

I mean... I did apologise about that part. My mistake.
Also. I am just a forum mod. The best I can do is to bring attention to something I or the community finds suspicious.

Im saving this comment for future reference BTW...a forum mod admiting he isn't a god...how refreshing :)