Pros, cons, & audiences of every writing/webnovel site[a continual discussion]

[ConansWitchBaby]

RoyalRoad mods. They would rather beat a homeless person to death than admit to being turbo virgins.

 

[beast_regards]

I didn't post here for the while now, but I did a long time ago.

(I last posted in 2021)

Fanfiction.net
Pros: No ratings, no down voting, no reviews in the Royal Road sense (comments are called reviews and have no effect on your story unless you are really sensitive). It's mostly about getting views than anything else.
Cons: Clunky and confusing interface (upload *.doc file to convert into the chapter without formatting). No original stories (there is a sister site Fictionpress for that by the same owner). Poor discoverability (you filter by parent work for fan-fiction, then for rating, i.e. M for mature, and then cross your fingers)
Popular genre's: Fan-fiction. Popularity depends on fandom.
Unpopular genre's: None, or smut.
audiences: fan-fiction writers, dying site, but new fiction still appear.
community(forums & discord): on-site forum are dead, or not navigable
known scandals and/or business practices: unknown.

I didn't post on fictionpress

Pros: No ratings, no down voting, no reviews in the Royal Road sense (comments are called reviews and have no effect on your story unless you are really sensitive). It's mostly about getting views than anything else. Account shared by fanfiction.net
Cons: Clunky and confusing interface (upload *.doc file to convert into the chapter without formatting). Poor discoverability (you filter by genre like sci-fi, then for rating, i.e. M for mature, and then cross your fingers)
Popular genre's: n/a
Unpopular genre's: n/a
audiences: n/a
community(forums & discord): on-site forum are dead, or not navigable
known scandals and/or business practices: unknown

 

[Gray_Mann]

I haven't used them, but I've heard of these two sites.

Neoread and Fox-Teller. All I know is Fox-Teller is supposedly similar to Moonquill in most things and Neoread is supposedly similar to Creative Novels but with some supposedly minor differences. Don't quote me on this though. Second-hand information.

pretty chill, though if you're lucky, you can encounter someone accusing you of stealing your own drawing because he saw it in a dream.

Wut?

 

[Representing_Tromba]

I haven't used them, but I've heard of these two sites.

Neoread and Fox-Teller. All I know is Fox-Teller is supposedly similar to Moonquill in most things and Neoread is supposedly similar to Creative Novels but with some supposedly minor differences. Don't quote me on this though. Second-hand information.

I looked them up. Neoread no longer exists but Neovel exists and I think is dying. Fox-teller exists though and is a novel site.

 

[Gray_Mann]

Neoread no longer exists but Neovel exists

Yes. Sorry. I forgot to mention that I think Neovel is just the new management or new version of Neoread with some of the same staff. But yeah, only limited engagement. Everytime I type in Neoread it imediately sends me to Neovel....so a purposeful re-route?

Also, Fox-Teller has a Discord. Or it did 6-months ago. Only active at certain times of the day, but not very.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Yes. Sorry. I forgot to mention that I think Neovel is just the new management or new version of Neoread with some of the same staff. But yeah, only limited engagement. Everytime I type in Neoread it imediately sends me to Neovel....so a purposeful re-route?

Also, Fox-Teller has a Discord. Or it did 6-months ago. Only active at certain times of the day, but not very.

Thank you!

 

[shawarma]

My conversations with moderator John
The first time I got in trouble.

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Sounds like someone reported you :(
My story has a slower start in regards to sexual content, but it should pick up quickly. We will see if I earn my own chat with John.

 

[Leti]

QQ is what SH is to RR, but for SB.

 

[Puji-Maki]

My conversations with moderator John
The first time I got in trouble.

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I know I'm late but this post is really helpful.

Also, my novels are getting pirated by Audiobook-AI and Novelbin. Let's gooo! It means my novels are worth pirating!

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Not wading through four pages for this - does this list mention Substack? I found out about them when I was considering giving Wattpad a shot (read that they were looking to get more than just romance stuff) and then heard there was a meltdown with the guy who was in charge of it, and its future was in jeopardy.
The possible collapse led to SubStack beginning to embrace serial fiction - before that it was a site for non-fiction or discussion about everything written.

An interesting point that the guy who mentioned this collapse brought up - follow the romance writers. Whenever a site or venue starts being successful, that success always starts with either romance or a near variant (or smut) - vampire romance, werewolf romance, etc. Once those start taking off on a site, other stuff usually does as well. It happened with KDP, and the article had three other examples but I can't seem to find it now.

 

[ConansWitchBaby]

substack is still heavily non fiction

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Not wading through four pages for this - does this list mention Substack? I found out about them when I was considering giving Wattpad a shot (read that they were looking to get more than just romance stuff) and then heard there was a meltdown with the guy who was in charge of it, and its future was in jeopardy.
The possible collapse led to SubStack beginning to embrace serial fiction - before that it was a site for non-fiction or discussion about everything written.

An interesting point that the guy who mentioned this collapse brought up - follow the romance writers. Whenever a site or venue starts being successful, that success always starts with either romance or a near variant (or smut) - vampire romance, werewolf romance, etc. Once those start taking off on a site, other stuff usually does as well. It happened with KDP, and the article had three other examples but I can't seem to find it now.

substack is still heavily non fiction

Added it to the list.

 

[beast_regards]

QQ is what SH is to RR, but for SB.

SB (Spacebattles), SV (Sufficient Velocity) and QQ (Questionable Questing) are all related.
SB and SV are essentially identical twins who fight a lot, and QQ is their perverted cousin, but they are ultimately related.
They share a lot of their audience. Not all, but a lot.

Moonquill:

Worth to mention that Moonquill is Royal Road's publishing site.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

substack is still heavily non fiction

Well, it seems about 60% is (paywalled) advice on writing (about 1/3 of THAT on writing Fiction, the rest just general writing), about 20% day-to-day commentary, and 20% fiction. Maybe there is some other non-fiction there, but not on anything I've followed or found in 45 days there...

 

[Gray_Mann]

Went looking for this NovelPets site since I wanted to see what a member of this site created....and all I'm getting is an old reddit post where he shows updates about the site. The last post was 8 months ago. No site to speak of.

What gives?

 

[Leti]

SB (Spacebattles), SV (Sufficient Velocity) and QQ (Questionable Questing) are all related.

So they can't have a baby together without making the baby suffers from deformities and defects. Noted.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Went looking for this NovelPets site since I wanted to see what a member of this site created....and all I'm getting is an old reddit post where he shows updates about the site. The last post was 8 months ago. No site to speak of.

What gives?

You mostly need access through his discord, I think.

 

[beast_regards]

So they can't have a baby together without making the baby suffers from deformities and defects. Noted.

Yes. That's a running theme. There were further attempts to split the site further by creating smaller forums and they could be only described as deformities.

 

[Gray_Mann]

You mostly need access through his discord, I think.

Need to be granted access to a writing site via Discord? Sounds very questionable.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Need to be granted access to a writing site via Discord? Sounds very questionable.

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He's still working on it. Here's the discord invite though.