Fanfic Idea I Had About Fateverse

[Arch9CivilReactor]

Honestly, my love for fate and everything surrounding it isn’t strong enough to write a fanfic about it… but an idea did pop into my head while trying to figure out a way to write a progressive story without breaking the universe.

The nasuverse as a whole has the type of magic system that takes more than gives. If you aren’t some high end prodigy, then you might as well wait until your thirties to be ‘good’ at magic. The main character level Rin Tohsaka level talent isn’t something everyone has. After all, this is a system where even the Magic Circuits hurt.

Activating the Magic Circuits is like using something foreign in the body. It heats up the body (something Kiritsugu used to hunt Mages that really needed to die).

It’s hard to make an upbeat story when everything related to magic is dark. The only way to do that is to not be related to a magic family in any way. Just enjoying a normal, mundane life.

But I got sidetracked.

Anyway…

The idea was using a mix between that one Illya magical spin off as a base for a progression story where there a certain differences in history. The main character has a Dual Origin attribute called ‘Self-Adjustment and Correction’. He made a deal with Darius Ainsworth about something regarding Pandora’s Box, but does not remember what.

For those who don’t know, the magical girl spin-off starring Illya (shirou’s sister) has two universes. The one where a ‘Perfect Holy Grail Vessel’ was born (where Einzburn were replaced by a household called Ainzworth) and the more normal universe that Illya was born into.

By messing with the history of the Ainzworth Family and the main villain, Darius Ainzworth, I had effectively made it possible for ANYTHING to happen in this new timeline. Meaning that a lot of tragedies for Fate/Zero can be prevented.

Darius Ainzworth’s ability to manipulate space with an attribute ‘to connect to something impossible’ also explains why a fate fan could transmigrate or reincarnate into the universe.

That’s the gist of the idea anyway.

I haven’t really been able to get far in the concept itself other than the main character appearing where Shirou was found, and becomes an assistant to Kiritsugu in this new timeline where he properly trains Shirou (basically Oath Under Snow if you seen that movie).

Sigma should be hired for a certain mother/son to reunite, and Illya needs saving in this world that has BOTH the Einzburn and Ainzworth. It also has double the narcissists with Shinji and Julian. Zouken should die in a grail war early on so that stuff with Sakura doesn’t happen.

The main character specialises in Reinforcement Magic and isn’t much better than Shirou in terms of Magic Circuit potential. Not having the potential to cast high level magic beyond basics like Shirou. His specialty being body related.

I’m unsure what to do with this idea as I don’t have the time to write it recently. The more I think about it, the more the Nasuverse magic system gives me a headache. I’m also not confident in doing the idea justice (since my Gardener writing is pretty all over the place).

If this post helped someone think of their own fanfic idea or wants to use this one, then my job is done (even though I’ve done nothing). Hurray for randomly sharing ideas on a forum.

The rest is on any inspired fanfic writer who finds this idea interesting.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

@Rhaps

 

[Tsuru]

Honestly, my love for fate and everything surrounding it isn’t strong enough to write a fanfic about it… but an idea did pop into my head while trying to figure out a way to write a progressive story without breaking the universe.

The nasuverse as a whole has the type of magic system that takes more than gives. If you aren’t some high end prodigy, then you might as well wait until your thirties to be ‘good’ at magic. The main character level Rin Tohsaka level talent isn’t something everyone has. After all, this is a system where even the Magic Circuits hurt.

Activating the Magic Circuits is like using something foreign in the body. It heats up the body (something Kiritsugu used to hunt Mages that really needed to die).

It’s hard to make an upbeat story when everything related to magic is dark. The only way to do that is to not be related to a magic family in any way. Just enjoying a normal, mundane life.

But I got sidetracked.

Anyway…

The idea was using a mix between that one Illya magical spin off as a base for a progression story where there a certain differences in history. The main character has a Dual Origin attribute called ‘Self-Adjustment and Correction’. He made a deal with Darius Ainsworth about something regarding Pandora’s Box, but does not remember what.

For those who don’t know, the magical girl spin-off starring Illya (shirou’s sister) has two universes. The one where a ‘Perfect Holy Grail Vessel’ was born (where Einzburn were replaced by a household called Ainzworth) and the more normal universe that Illya was born into.

By messing with the history of the Ainzworth Family and the main villain, Darius Ainzworth, I had effectively made it possible for ANYTHING to happen in this new timeline. Meaning that a lot of tragedies for Fate/Zero can be prevented.

Darius Ainzworth’s ability to manipulate space with an attribute ‘to connect to something impossible’ also explains why a fate fan could transmigrate or reincarnate into the universe.

That’s the gist of the idea anyway.

I haven’t really been able to get far in the concept itself other than the main character appearing where Shirou was found, and becomes an assistant to Kiritsugu in this new timeline where he properly trains Shirou (basically Oath Under Snow if you seen that movie).

Sigma should be hired for a certain mother/son to reunite, and Illya needs saving in this world that has BOTH the Einzburn and Ainzworth. It also has double the narcissists with Shinji and Julian. Zouken should die in a grail war early on so that stuff with Sakura doesn’t happen.

The main character specialises in Reinforcement Magic and isn’t much better than Shirou in terms of Magic Circuit potential. Not having the potential to cast high level magic beyond basics like Shirou. His specialty being body related.

I’m unsure what to do with this idea as I don’t have the time to write it recently. The more I think about it, the more the Nasuverse magic system gives me a headache. I’m also not confident in doing the idea justice (since my Gardener writing is pretty all over the place).

If this post helped someone think of their own fanfic idea or wants to use this one, then my job is done (even though I’ve done nothing). Hurray for randomly sharing ideas on a forum.

The rest is on any inspired fanfic writer who finds this idea interesting.

Fate as a Servant

Is it not enough being reborn in the Nasuverse? Is it not enough being a servant? I can deal with all this, but why do I have to be Aqua?! She shouldn't even be from this verse so why?!?! Mc won't be as stupid as Aqua just in case. There...

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>Recommendation.
as fellow "fateverse" enjoyer.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I have seen, I think, five of the Fate/xxx stories and they were all cool, and all violated the rules established in the earlier ones to some degree (though that may be due to translation/dubbing as the names listed do not sound exactly like what was on screen but close). It is a realm that I think IS Fan Fiction, and thus open to more of the same.

The basic concept works anywhere - you have a group of mages who cannot or will not fight each other directly and who summon heroes from folklore, history, fiction or mythology to fight for them, with the ultimate prize something of great power (The Holy Grail in all but one of them; some kind of computer or something in the last one I saw - but the Grail was a trap in two of them, and either turned down or not earned in one). Just coming up with a happy ending there, instead of a bitter-sweet or "Well, we won, but at a horrible cost" one would be a major twist, I think, but maybe worth exploring.

 

[Nolff]

Honestly, my love for fate and everything surrounding it isn’t strong enough to write a fanfic about it… but an idea did pop into my head while trying to figure out a way to write a progressive story without breaking the universe.

The nasuverse as a whole has the type of magic system that takes more than gives. If you aren’t some high end prodigy, then you might as well wait until your thirties to be ‘good’ at magic. The main character level Rin Tohsaka level talent isn’t something everyone has. After all, this is a system where even the Magic Circuits hurt.

Activating the Magic Circuits is like using something foreign in the body. It heats up the body (something Kiritsugu used to hunt Mages that really needed to die).

It’s hard to make an upbeat story when everything related to magic is dark. The only way to do that is to not be related to a magic family in any way. Just enjoying a normal, mundane life.

But I got sidetracked.

Anyway…

The idea was using a mix between that one Illya magical spin off as a base for a progression story where there a certain differences in history. The main character has a Dual Origin attribute called ‘Self-Adjustment and Correction’. He made a deal with Darius Ainsworth about something regarding Pandora’s Box, but does not remember what.

For those who don’t know, the magical girl spin-off starring Illya (shirou’s sister) has two universes. The one where a ‘Perfect Holy Grail Vessel’ was born (where Einzburn were replaced by a household called Ainzworth) and the more normal universe that Illya was born into.

By messing with the history of the Ainzworth Family and the main villain, Darius Ainzworth, I had effectively made it possible for ANYTHING to happen in this new timeline. Meaning that a lot of tragedies for Fate/Zero can be prevented.

Darius Ainzworth’s ability to manipulate space with an attribute ‘to connect to something impossible’ also explains why a fate fan could transmigrate or reincarnate into the universe.

That’s the gist of the idea anyway.

I haven’t really been able to get far in the concept itself other than the main character appearing where Shirou was found, and becomes an assistant to Kiritsugu in this new timeline where he properly trains Shirou (basically Oath Under Snow if you seen that movie).

Sigma should be hired for a certain mother/son to reunite, and Illya needs saving in this world that has BOTH the Einzburn and Ainzworth. It also has double the narcissists with Shinji and Julian. Zouken should die in a grail war early on so that stuff with Sakura doesn’t happen.

The main character specialises in Reinforcement Magic and isn’t much better than Shirou in terms of Magic Circuit potential. Not having the potential to cast high level magic beyond basics like Shirou. His specialty being body related.

I’m unsure what to do with this idea as I don’t have the time to write it recently. The more I think about it, the more the Nasuverse magic system gives me a headache. I’m also not confident in doing the idea justice (since my Gardener writing is pretty all over the place).

If this post helped someone think of their own fanfic idea or wants to use this one, then my job is done (even though I’ve done nothing). Hurray for randomly sharing ideas on a forum.

The rest is on any inspired fanfic writer who finds this idea interesting.

*Copied and pasted into Notepad*

Don't mind me, my hub fanfics prolly won't focus on this much.

*OBSERVE*

 

[Rhaps]

You don't need to worry too much about when it comes to the Nasuverse's magic system beside some established rules, like mystery get weaker overtime so beings from the era before King Arthur's time are crazy OP (should be use as major bosses) like Lugh-Beowulf and most of the Dead Apostles.

For the Origin, you should only stick with one Origin, it is far more profound and OP than you think it is. Like Shirou's Origin being Sword - from this he developed UBW and the ability to master any weapon he hold. Recently Shirou can turn any weapon in UBW into a Broken Phantasm, think an infinite amount of Gáe Bolg that explodes. He's the second strongest Type-Moon MC, right behind Aoko - the owner of the Fifth Magic.

Origins are aspects of the Root, it quite literally define and directly influence the abilities and action of a person. I feel like having two Origins would be something that pissed Alaya off. Between Self-Adjustment and Correction, Correction seem far more interesting to me.

Remember, any and all rules established can and will get broken.

And one last thing, DO NOT EVER USE ORT, I know the Brazilian spider is cool and all, it is the strongest being in the Nasuverse, period.

Spoiler: Tangent and glazing ORT, contain LB 7 spoiler

It killed a Dead Apostle in 3 seconds while still sleeping, in LB 7 it took the sacrifice of the entire human population and Camazotz fighting it for 32 million years just to put it to sleep, the starved and extremely weakened version of it can permanently kill Heroic Spirits, it copied the Throne of Hero before it was killed and summoned itself as the Grand Foreigner.

So yeah, happy writing!

 

[TheEldritchGod]

What you all talking about and why should I care?
Too lazy to google.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

What you all talking about and why should I care?
Too lazy to google.

If this is the same series of stories I think it is, googling it would only create more confusion anyway.

 

[Arch9CivilReactor]

You don't need to worry too much about when it comes to the Nasuverse's magic system beside some established rules, like mystery get weaker overtime so beings from the era before King Arthur's time are crazy OP (should be use as major bosses) like Lugh-Beowulf and most of the Dead Apostles.

For the Origin, you should only stick with one Origin, it is far more profound and OP than you think it is. Like Shirou's Origin being Sword - from this he developed UBW and the ability to master any weapon he hold. Recently Shirou can turn any weapon in UBW into a Broken Phantasm, think an infinite amount of Gáe Bolg that explodes. He's the second strongest Type-Moon MC, right behind Aoko - the owner of the Fifth Magic.

Origins are aspects of the Root, it quite literally define and directly influence the abilities and action of a person. I feel like having two Origins would be something that pissed Alaya off. Between Self-Adjustment and Correction, Correction seem far more interesting to me.

Remember, any and all rules established can and will get broken.

And one last thing, DO NOT EVER USE ORT, I know the Brazilian spider is cool and all, it is the strongest being in the Nasuverse, period.

Spoiler: Tangent and glazing ORT, contain LB 7 spoiler

It killed a Dead Apostle in 3 seconds while still sleeping, in LB 7 it took the sacrifice of the entire human population and Camazotz fighting it for 32 million years just to put it to sleep, the starved and extremely weakened version of it can permanently kill Heroic Spirits, it copied the Throne of Hero before it was killed and summoned itself as the Grand Foreigner.

So yeah, happy writing!

I based it off Kiritsugu’s Origin. Self-Adjustment meaning to modify an aspect of oneself specifically rather than the world, and Correction being to walk towards perfecting oneself.

Both of them complement each other but you’re right on the latter being so important that you can forget the former. I thought Correction would have too many implications if not paired with Self-Adjustment. Felt like breaking the balance.

I looked up what Origins were and found this balanced enough to be ‘not overpowered’.

Also got no idea what ORT means.

 

[Rhaps]

I based it off Kiritsugu’s Origin. Self-Adjustment meaning to modify an aspect of oneself specifically rather than the world, and Correction being to walk towards perfecting oneself.

Both of them complement each other but you’re right on the latter being so important that you can forget the former. I thought Correction would have too many implications if not paired with Self-Adjustment. Felt like breaking the balance.

I looked up what Origins were and found this balanced enough to be ‘not overpowered’.

Also got no idea what ORT means.

When incorporating Origin into a character, remember that it defines and set out a rigid destiny for the character. Kiritsugu's Severing and Binding implies that the more he tries to fix something the worse it'll get, Shirou's Sword turned him into the Counter Force's favorite Counter Guardian - forever a weapon to be used by other.

Kiritsugu never got to fully awaken his Origin, at best he can cut himself off from time and accelerate his movement. Shirou have UBW since he fully awaken his Origin.

If you want your MC to use Magecraft, then I think Healing and Resortation Magecraft work best. Origin make it very difficult to use other types of Magecraft but make the user accel at Magecraft fit for the Origin.

Origin also affect personality too, like Shirou's impulses to help other is his Origin's influence to be used as a tool, combine with Survivor's Guilt, you get a human broken inside and out. So for Self-Adjustment and Correction, I think your MC could be like Griffith.

 

[Arch9CivilReactor]

When incorporating Origin into a character, remember that it defines and set out a rigid destiny for the character. Kiritsugu's Severing and Binding implies that the more he tries to fix something the worse it'll get, Shirou's Sword turned him into the Counter Force's favorite Counter Guardian - forever a weapon to be used by other.

Kiritsugu never got to fully awaken his Origin, at best he can cut himself off from time and accelerate his movement. Shirou have UBW since he fully awaken his Origin.

If you want your MC to use Magecraft, then I think Healing and Resortation Magecraft work best. Origin make it very difficult to use other types of Magecraft but make the user accel at Magecraft fit for the Origin.

Origin also affect personality too, like Shirou's impulses to help other is his Origin's influence to be used as a tool, combine with Survivor's Guilt, you get a human broken inside and out. So for Self-Adjustment and Correction, I think your MC could be like Griffith.

That’s the gist of the idea at least. The MC was supposed to be always trying to ‘adjust’ and ‘correct’ his actions constantly. Making him walk a path closer to ‘The correct way of walking and breathing’, but unable to reach that just yet due to the ‘correction’ itself being very ill-defined.

He usually adjusts and corrects himself towards his current intention, but feelings and motives are always changing, so it weakens what could be an overpowered Origin if he had clear focus.

And the problem with him learning ‘Healing and Restoration’ Magecraft is that there is no one to teach him. At least not unless some random mage pops up and wants to be his teacher.