Poll: No one should change their name unless they want too.

Should people be forced to change their name via poll?

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ZukoMee

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Paul_Tromba said:
That was before he became dictator though, it's different.
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Historically, Caesar was well liked by the people. The populace. The little guys. You and me. The ones who hated him were the Senators. Kind of like the Congress of today. So no, Caesar was wildly popular. That was what made the Senators plot to kill him. He could keep making himself Dictator, which at that time was an actual position with a term-limit. He could make himself Dictator for life, and the people would love and cheer him for it. The army, which is where the real power of politics lay in the Republic at the time, the majority of it loved Caesar.

Caesar represented something that could strip the Senators of their power, wealth, and influence and they would have no legal discourse to stop him because nearly everybody loved Julius. Julius was also known for sparing his enemies, even those that had betrayed him before. He could be bloodthirsty yes, but for someone on the cusp of absolute power, he had a VERY good amount of control over himself.

All of these things added together into one person, terrified the Senators. One man wielding so much power for so long was against everything the Senators thought was "proper" in the Republic. Or at least their idea of a Republic. The only one example of a Julius Caesar before Julius himself, was Cornelius Sulla who ruled with fear and intimidation after killing and/or exiling all of his enemies.

That was the difference between Sulla and Caesar. Sulla win his civil war, then proceeded to kill the rest of his enemies, the survivors fleeing to exile. Sullas partisans then took over the government and Sullas was able to retire in peace.

Caesar wasn't as brutal. He won his civil war, then pardoned and forgave the rest of his enemies who then later plotted and killed him for his kindness. Needless to say, in such cutthroat politics, clemency is taken advantage of. Better to kill them all and let your cronies worry about picking up the pieces and fixing them.
 
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ZukoMee said:
Historically, Caesar was well liked by the people. The populace. The little guys. You and me. The ones who hated him were the Senators. Kind of like the Congress of today. So no, Caesar was wildly popular. That was what made the Senators plot to kill him. He could keep making himself Dictator, which at that time was an actual position with a term-limit. He could make himself Dictator for life, and the people would love and cheer him for it. The army, which is where the real power of politics lay in the Republic at the time, the majority of it loved Caesar.

Caesar represented something that could strip them of their power, wealth, and influence and they would have no legal discourse to stop him because nearly everybody loved Julius. Julius was also known for sparing his enemies, even those that had betrayed him before. He could be bloodthirsty yes, but for someone on the cusp of absolute power, he had a VERY good amount of control over himself.

All of these things added together into one person, terrified the Senators. One man wielding so much power for so long was against everything the Senators thought was "proper" in the Republic. Or at least their idea of a Republic. The only one example of a Julius Caesar before Julius himself, was Cornelius Sulla who ruled with fear and intimidation after killing and/or exiling all of his enemies.

That was the difference between Sulla and Caesar. Sulla win his civil war, then proceeded to kill the rest of his enemies, the survivors fleeing to exile. Sullas partisans then took over the government and Sullas was able to retire in peace.

Caesar wasn't as brutal. He won his civil war, then pardoned and forgave the rest of his enemies who then later plotted and killed him for his kindness. Needless to say, in such cutthroat politics, clemency is taken advantage of. Better to kill them all and let your cronies worry about picking up the pieces and fixing them.
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I see. I will need to read more on the subject.
 
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ZukoMee said:
That was the difference between Sulla and Caesar. Sulla win his civil war, then proceeded to kill the rest of his enemies, the survivors fleeing to exile. Sullas partisans then took over the government and Sullas was able to retire in peace.

Caesar wasn't as brutal. He won his civil war, then pardoned and forgave the rest of his enemies who then later plotted and killed him for his kindness. Needless to say, in such cutthroat politics, clemency is taken advantage of. Better to kill them all and let your cronies worry about picking up the pieces and fixing them.
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It's ironic.
 
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Mandatory votes to change names? Sure, why not? There's never enough chaos to have.
 
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