Lysander_Works
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I've come here to let off some fire and steam, though I'm calm about it now. Cloudflare is at their BS again, blocking me from accessing a certain url and effectively any attempt to communicate with that website, not even because it thinks I'm a bot, but because it's own verification system won't load properly on my laptop, thus breaking its redirection code when it has verified I'm not a bot. This has actually happened to me before for different reasons, but I think it is an important discussion to have that not many tech-minded people are having.
CloudFlare is used to block bots, so without it, any website being hit by bot attacks is going to get reamed without a solution, so I get it; I understand why there is a need for it. The problem is, CloudFlare won't just let every single human through their elitist royal gate. Wrong time zone for a particular setting? BLOCKED. Invalid cookie setting? BLOCKED. Internet is too slow? BLOCKED. I know I've never had good luck when it comes to technology screwing people, but I can't be the only one this is happening to. The ultimate question is, what to people like me do when we get locked out on the other side of that wall? Sure, many workarounds can fix the problem; it's the very first thing that I try, but not every single time will that approach work. What happens when cloudflare in its infinite wisdom blocks someone from visiting an important website to the point where that site's admins can't even be contacted about it? Do we just turn around and leave with our hands in the air? God forbid Cloudflare starts "protecting" governmental websites like Healthcare and Tax websites. Sheesh!
On the more technical side of things, I have to wonder what can be done to mitigate this more. The issue is not always about "clearing cookie and cache data." Sometimes it's something else, and Cloudflare never tells its users what kind of issue it has with some individuals when it does. I guess I wish I just had some way to at least understand what they want from me to get by. Someone needs to implement a bypass button for them if they're going to make their wall too powerful.
I have held off on talking about this for a while, because despite seeing Cloudflare used far more often, everybody ignores it or doesn't care about its potential downsides, and I'll admit these issues I mentioned are probably occurring with 0.1% rarity. My thing is, what happens if a well-known website ends up in a situation where that rarity jumps to a commonality? Are they supposed to be F*cked by users leaving the site forever in a mass exodus, or F*cked by bots? Yeah, if cloudflare itself was better and more lenient, this wouldn't be such a big issue, but I very much doubt cloudflare will fix this just for the sake of us plebes.
Again, I'm sure most people don't care about this at all, and that's fine. I had to let off some steam about it today or who knows what would happen instead?
Anyways, everyone have a good day. Oh and Cloudflare? ?you!
CloudFlare is used to block bots, so without it, any website being hit by bot attacks is going to get reamed without a solution, so I get it; I understand why there is a need for it. The problem is, CloudFlare won't just let every single human through their elitist royal gate. Wrong time zone for a particular setting? BLOCKED. Invalid cookie setting? BLOCKED. Internet is too slow? BLOCKED. I know I've never had good luck when it comes to technology screwing people, but I can't be the only one this is happening to. The ultimate question is, what to people like me do when we get locked out on the other side of that wall? Sure, many workarounds can fix the problem; it's the very first thing that I try, but not every single time will that approach work. What happens when cloudflare in its infinite wisdom blocks someone from visiting an important website to the point where that site's admins can't even be contacted about it? Do we just turn around and leave with our hands in the air? God forbid Cloudflare starts "protecting" governmental websites like Healthcare and Tax websites. Sheesh!
On the more technical side of things, I have to wonder what can be done to mitigate this more. The issue is not always about "clearing cookie and cache data." Sometimes it's something else, and Cloudflare never tells its users what kind of issue it has with some individuals when it does. I guess I wish I just had some way to at least understand what they want from me to get by. Someone needs to implement a bypass button for them if they're going to make their wall too powerful.
I have held off on talking about this for a while, because despite seeing Cloudflare used far more often, everybody ignores it or doesn't care about its potential downsides, and I'll admit these issues I mentioned are probably occurring with 0.1% rarity. My thing is, what happens if a well-known website ends up in a situation where that rarity jumps to a commonality? Are they supposed to be F*cked by users leaving the site forever in a mass exodus, or F*cked by bots? Yeah, if cloudflare itself was better and more lenient, this wouldn't be such a big issue, but I very much doubt cloudflare will fix this just for the sake of us plebes.
Again, I'm sure most people don't care about this at all, and that's fine. I had to let off some steam about it today or who knows what would happen instead?
Anyways, everyone have a good day. Oh and Cloudflare? ?you!
