Can a character who has the lightning element win against a mirror creature?

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Lightning isn't light... right? They're just electrical current with extremely high-energy.

It will more than likely just burn parts of the mirror instead of being reflected.
 

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If its regular glass mirror, then no. It could defend at best, as glass itself is a dialectric material, but it's like holding a glass panel against the lightning itself.

If its metal mirror like iron/copper/bronze/silver, the it's not only "not reflected", it's going to "pass through" and injure the user instead. Its like "fighting fire user by smearing yourself with oil", or more accurately "fighting someone with good nose by using distinct perfume" and "fighting ini the middle of the dark night with bright white clothing"; in the sense that Toure allowing yourself to be targeted easily while also having disadvantage/handicap.

If it's magic mirror with the property of "lightning reflect" or "reflect elemental", the it could reflect the lightning depend on the lightning properties or the mirror magical tolerances.

In the end, it depends on the material of the mirror itself.
 
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Would lightning be redirected by a mirror like light?
Depends.

Are we operating under Pataphysics, Metaphysics, Isophysics, Hypophysics, Infraphysics, or Paraphysics (subset)?

I'm specifically interested in which set of laws you are operating with considering that we are discussing magic. I am assuming that you wish for the isophysics answer, but if I am incorrect, please clarify. Isophysics would be "As normal to physics we can get, assuming that the original idea actually can work."

No. However, the type of mirror is what is important. Polished metal would result in the holder turning into charcoal, whereas a mirror made of glass would actually provide protection. Neither would reflect the lightning because lightning is Direct Current and thus actually transferred electrons.

However, if this is operating under Para-Isophysics, sure, if you want, but just make sure it is consistent with your magic system.
 

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I like how the level of explanation just keeps leveling up each post.
 

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Depends.

Are we operating under Pataphysics, Metaphysics, Isophysics, Hypophysics, Infraphysics, or Paraphysics (subset)?

I'm specifically interested in which set of laws you are operating with considering that we are discussing magic. I am assuming that you wish for the isophysics answer, but if I am incorrect, please clarify. Isophysics would be "As normal to physics we can get, assuming that the original idea actually can work."

No. However, the type of mirror is what is important. Polished metal would result in the holder turning into charcoal, whereas a mirror made of glass would actually provide protection. Neither would reflect the lightning because lightning is Direct Current and thus actually transferred electrons.

However, if this is operating under Para-Isophysics, sure, if you want, but just make sure it is consistent with your magic system.
It's an enchanted glass that grew into a mirror. It gave birth to mirror creatures. They are strong against light techniques.
 

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No. Mirrors do not reflect lightning, that's not how that works
 

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It's an enchanted glass that grew into a mirror. It gave birth to mirror creatures. They are strong against light techniques.
Ah.

So it gives birth to mirror creatures, which sounds like a metaphysic take. Since it creates a physical representation of the "opposite" of what appears in the mirror.

1) If the mirror can be harmed by magic, it could be destroyed. If the destruction of the mirror destroys the mirror creatures, then this would simply cause everything to stop.

2) However, since it creates a concept of "Opposite" it would create "mirror" lightning which would reflect the lightning.

However, in what aspect are these mirror creatures? Are we dealing with Good/Evil? Left/Right but perhaps in service to the creator? Or a true "Anti"?

A) In the case of good evil, it would not matter, as it would not have an alignment, but it would reflect back at the caster directly. This would because it would reverse the "intent" of the attack.
B) In the case of Left/Right, the lightning would "bounce" therefore, unless the caster was standing directly in front of the mirror, looking at himself, the lightning would reflect and hit whatever target the caster was looking at. For example, the MC could "Bounce" the bolt off the mirror to hit the bad guy in the back, IF he could see the back of the bad guy IN the mirror.
C) This gets funky because anti-lightning would be destructive AF. You are dealing with Positrons here, which while not as impressive as anti-protons, will STILL be quite the explosion for whatever it hits. Let's just say a PET scan is something you shouldn't have more than once a year and leave it at that, and that thing puts out positrons in the mere millivolts.
 

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It's an enchanted glass that grew into a mirror. It gave birth to mirror creatures. They are strong against light techniques.
Unless the mirror creatures are enchanted to resist and/or redirect electricity, they would either shatter or melt.
 

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Would lightning be redirected by a mirror like light?
Uh what’s the mirror made of? Ice? Bronze? Stainlesss steel? Or just concept? Conceptually csn’t think of anything that can possibly beat mirror except another mirror triggering a paradox
 

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> It gave birth to mirror creatures.

Are they glass backed with a thin coating of silver?

> They are strong against light techniques.

So's a bathroom mirror.

Lightning isn't light. Lightning is good at cooking stuff with a hint water in it, melting sand or so on. If you can get it to hit a mirror, it's going to heat and shatter the glass while blasting off the silver backing.
 
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Are we operating under Pataphysics, Metaphysics, Isophysics, Hypophysics, Infraphysics, or Paraphysics (subset)?
I've no idea what that's supposed to mean. Pataphysics, paraphysics, and metaphysics, i get that, but I have no inkling about the rest.
 

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Static Shock has lightening element, and he can make metal move...

Metal > Mirror.
 

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I've no idea what that's supposed to mean. Pataphysics, paraphysics, and metaphysics, i get that, but I have no inkling about the rest.
Pataphysics - Imaginary Science (What we cannot conceive)
Metaphysics - Memetic Science (What we conceive)
Isophysics - Normal physics, but in the literary sense. (Objective reality)
Hypophysics - Quantum mechanics, but literary. (Subjective Reality)
Infraphysics - Null science (The science of nothing)

Paraphysics - A altered version of Meta, Iso, or Hypo.

Examples:

  • Pataphysics - Something totally alien to human way of thought. This would be your neverborns or eldritch horrors of Lovecraftian origins. By definition, you cannot conceive Pataphysical concepts.
  • Metaphysics - This is thought, basically. Pure concepts such as emotions, honor, philosophy, etc.
  • Para-metaphysics - It's where you take normal human thought and give it new rules that couldn't exist. Physical manifestation of thought would be a para-meta concept.
  • Isophysics - Normal physics, but the thing is, does any "normal" physics really exist in writing? For example, 20 bad guys shoot SMGs at MC and nobody hits. This is Isophysics. Yes, it is POSSIBLE, but really, did that make sense? So, it isn't "physics", it's isophysics. "Real" physics doesn't technically exist in fiction, because it is FICTION.
  • Para-Isophysics - You take physics and add new rules. This is most magic systems.
  • Hypophysics - Quantum mechanics, but again, literary. This gets a little fuzzy, because TECHNICALLY, it should only be what is possible, but we don't know what is or isn't actually possible. Basically, on some level of reality, when you get small enough, perception changes reality. To observe is to alter what you observe. Is Quantum Entanglement Communication possible? maybe. We're almost there... maybe. But, we're close enough to assume that it is, so it would fall under Hypophysics. It's not "Real" Quantum mechanics, but fictional Quantum Mechanics.
  • Para-Hypophysics - Quautum teleportation for macro objects. Again, this gets fuzzy. Is this Para-Iso, or is it Para-Hypo? Up for debate, but mostly it is a useful metric for the writer, not a hard and fast rule. I personally put the line at "How hard is the Magic System/Super Science?" Para-Hypo is more SciFi than Para-Iso, IMHO.
  • Infraphysics - The Science of NULL. This is another difficult concept to handle. It is the literary science of NOTHING. The absolute lowest end of concepts. Where we are dealing with the absence of everything. No matter/energy/thought, but even empty space has rules, has permanence. So, if you are dealing with REALLY alien concepts about NOTHING, then you are dealing with Infraphysics.

You will note, there are no Para versions of Pata or Infra physics. Why? Because it already IS as Para as we an get. There are no ALTERNATE versions of Pata or Infra physics, because humans cannot even begin to conceptualize what is NORMAL for these versions of physics, much less what an alternate version of them would be.

TL/DR: It's all just a way of breaking down "rules" for fiction so you, the writer, can keep better track of your concepts when world building.

That make sense?
 

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Ah.

So it gives birth to mirror creatures, which sounds like a metaphysic take. Since it creates a physical representation of the "opposite" of what appears in the mirror.

1) If the mirror can be harmed by magic, it could be destroyed. If the destruction of the mirror destroys the mirror creatures, then this would simply cause everything to stop.

2) However, since it creates a concept of "Opposite" it would create "mirror" lightning which would reflect the lightning.

However, in what aspect are these mirror creatures? Are we dealing with Good/Evil? Left/Right but perhaps in service to the creator? Or a true "Anti"?

A) In the case of good evil, it would not matter, as it would not have an alignment, but it would reflect back at the caster directly. This would because it would reverse the "intent" of the attack.
B) In the case of Left/Right, the lightning would "bounce" therefore, unless the caster was standing directly in front of the mirror, looking at himself, the lightning would reflect and hit whatever target the caster was looking at. For example, the MC could "Bounce" the bolt off the mirror to hit the bad guy in the back, IF he could see the back of the bad guy IN the mirror.
C) This gets funky because anti-lightning would be destructive AF. You are dealing with Positrons here, which while not as impressive as anti-protons, will STILL be quite the explosion for whatever it hits. Let's just say a PET scan is something you shouldn't have more than once a year and leave it at that, and that thing puts out positrons in the mere millivolts.
They have a 'controller'. The controller uses the victims as a battery for these creatures. If an arm breaks off, they will use the mana from the victims to reformat themselves. They will mirror people until the battery runs out.
 
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