What the fuck is happening with monster girl evolution stories on RR??

[ThisAdamGuy]

I hope nobody tried to launch a new story today. Imagine spending weeks or months of your life writing something you're insanely proud of, only for it to lose its chance at making it on the Rising Stars list because a bunch of authors who already have massive followings decided to work together and flood the site for a publicity stunt.

https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/comments/1mv1m9r

 

[Cipiteca396]

Is anyone doing a "She's a boy. She's a girl. And she's about to evolve..." one yet?

I was hoping for Girl Girl Evolution.

 

[Justhetip...]

I hope nobody tried to launch a new story today. Imagine spending weeks or months of your life writing something you're insanely proud of, only for it to lose its chance at making it on the Rising Stars list because a bunch of authors who already have massive followings decided to work together and flood the site for a publicity stunt.

https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/comments/1mv1m9r

To be honest. I have to say that this is a very effective way to crush the competition, it feels a bit icky, but impressive nonetheless.

Also, not all of them have massive followings as you said when I checked, some are only writing their first story, and in a place like RR with cruel competition, this headstart means a lot to them, stop looking at it from solely one perspective.


Edit: If you can't beat em, join them, it's RR.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I was hoping for Girl Girl Evolution.

Evolutionist Girl Evolution

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Isn't that basically any regular old genderbender?

I feel like I need to rename All I Wanted Was To Get A Skill At Level 10 Like Everyone Else to the much more trendy Coeurl Girl Evolution.

I was thinking it would be the other way around though - she's evolving into a monster ... a boy.

 

[confusedneophyte]

Whelp - That kills Royal Road for awhile now. Authors who already have the visibility start a joke circle je ... writing of a one note story thus crowding out any up and coming would be writers. I hope that joke was worth it (I know the stories were not)

To be honest. I have to say that this is a very effective way to crush the competition, it feels a bit icky, but impressive nonetheless.

Also, not all of them have massive followings as you said when I checked, some are only writing their first story, and in a place like RR with cruel competition, this headstart means a lot to them, stop looking at it from solely one perspective.


Edit: If you can't beat em, join them, it's RR.

So let me get this straight - A joke thread of stories where a new writer has to write a variant of a story template and not their own story is a headstart?

 

[ThisAdamGuy]

Whelp - That kills Royal Road for awhile now.

Apparently they even got permission from the mods to do it. I remember there was a big scandal a year or two ago because they found out a group of users had formed some kind of "vote mafia" to manipulate who was on the front page and rising stars, and it ended with a ton of people getting banned. But when a bunch of popular authors (and one or two noobs) flood the site with meme books, stealing away who-knows how many smaller authors' chances of getting noticed, its just a joke and you should admire them for "crushing the competition." You really can get away with anything on that site if your story brings in enough ad revenue.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I remember there was a big scandal a year or two ago because they found out a group of users had formed some kind of "vote mafia" to manipulate who was on the front page and rising stars,

Again?

 

[JayMark]

There's this site called Tower of Babel.

Ratings and ranking overwhelmingly determine visibility on Tower of Babel.

I believe, just from what I've seen and my experience, that the established writers crush the competition by having alts and followers bottom floor rate anything that might possibly be a threat enmass until it nicely sits at the bottom of the algorithm. In the Tower of Babel pit.

I think this is why the same authors always dominate the front page.

This toxcity spreads to all.

Thus the big authors on Tower of Babel argue the upstarts can take it and it all evens out once enough following is gained. Or they just call upstarts trash writers, the 'git gud' argument. The funny thing is that really bad stories often aren't attacked as agressively because they won't do well organically.

The rating rigging destroys the ego of small writers who quit entirely. Then it throws the ones who don't quit to the bottom of rankings at the most vulnerable point of their growth.

Meanwhile, it barely puts a dent in the established writers with large audiences. Instead, it serves as their weapon against upstarts.

Even hinting at this gets a ban outright or a shadow ban, so don't bother complainingto the tower guards.

Meanwhile, more well established on the site and their friends can get a good percentage of bogus negative ratings redacted without repercusions.

Now they have a 'Shrinking Hero' trend, but it is just a minor amusing symptom of all that, not the actual problem. It's actually kind of cute and innocent.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

There's this site called Tower of Babel.

Ratings and ranking overwhelmingly determine visibility on Tower of Babel.

I believe, just from what I've seen and my experience, that the established writers crush the competition by having alts and followers bottom floor rate anything that might possibly be a threat enmass until it nicely sits at the bottom of the algorithm. In the Tower of Babel pit.

I think this is why the same authors always dominate the front page.

This toxcity spreads to all.

Thus the big authors on Tower of Babel argue the upstarts can take it and it all evens out once you they enough following. Or they just call upstarts trash writers, the 'git gud' argument. The funny thing is that really bad stories often aren't attacked as agressively because they won't do well organically.

The rating rigging destroys the ego of small writers who quit entirely. Then it throws the ones who don't quit to the bottom of rankings at the most vulnerable point of their growth.

Meanwhile, it barely puts a dent in the established writers with large audiences. Instead, it serves as their weapon against upstarts.

Even hinting at this gets a ban outright or a shadow ban, so don't bother complainingto the tower guards.

Meanwhile, more well established on the site and their friends can get a good percentage of bogus negative ratings redacted without repercusions.

Now they have a 'Shrinking Hero' trend, but it is just a minor amusing symptom of all that, not the actual problem. It's actually kind of cute and innocent.

 

[GearMagical]

I think this is some kind of nonsense, but the covers of these books are quite beautiful.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Answer: There is/was a writer's "cabal". Their goal was to "own" the rising stars list, and drown out all other writers as much as possible. They *all* decided on "monster girl...evolution" and all made stories, and coordinated the launches and releases to coincide. They all give well coordinated shout-outs and review swaps to each other and share readers. Its basically the writing version of a business monopoly, IE, businesses price fixing and coordinating behind closed doors, while publicly pretending to "compete". Technically, it breaks no rules on RR, so the practice can/will continue. Yes, all stories coordinated, will show similar cover art, blurbs, etc.

the writing group I was in, we actually developed the idea to hold off launching new stories, to be in between cabal coordinated releases, because they drown everything out so bad. I don't even know what "deckbuilding" is, but that's the next coming cabal thing from the same group of writers.

it just is what it is.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Answer: There is/was a writer's "cabal". Their goal was to "own" the rising stars list, and drown out all other writers as much as possible. They *all* decided on "monster girl...evolution" and all made stories, and coordinated the launches and releases to coincide. They all give well coordinated shout-outs and review swaps to each other and share readers. Its basically the writing version of a business monopoly, IE, businesses price fixing and coordinating behind closed doors, while publicly pretending to "compete". Technically, it breaks no rules on RR, so the practice can/will continue. Yes, all stories coordinated, will show similar cover art, blurbs, etc.

the writing group I was in, we actually developed the idea to hold off launching new stories, to be in between cabal coordinated releases, because they drown everything out so bad. I don't even know what "deckbuilding" is, but that's the next coming cabal thing from the same group of writers.

it just is what it is.

Deckbuilding refers to things like Card Captor Sakura or Yu-Gi-Oh - where a major theme is collecting objects (usually cards, but could be, oh, pokemon) and developing strategies to combine them for battle or other purposes.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

yeah. I had an image in my head? You know, a contractor, building a wood deck on your house. I knew it couldn't *be* that, just the funny image the name gives me.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

yeah. I had an image in my head? You know, a contractor, building a wood deck on your house. I knew it couldn't *be* that, just the funny image the name gives me.

I think someone did that (with a System) as a joke some time last year.