How do you feel about rape in stories when done by the Mc

[InceTagn]

I was reading a story, where the Mc raped a woman.
But the action was 'perfectly' justified, it was in other to save her life. The woman tried to kill herself and here I tough: " it is not so bad. It is to save her"

But seen in another way, the woman could have been married, and there for forced by the mc to ntr her husband.
As I started to think about that I got dizzy with all scenarios playing in my head.

What if I was in her place, I am a straight man. And the mc remained a man. I sincerely prefer dying...

I am not a fan of stories where the mc rape a woman.
I kindly prefer reverse rape.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Depends.

 

[Zirrboy]

>Simply not wanting it not being in this consideration

 

[tiaf]

No.

I want to read stuff to feel better, not to get some romanticized shit. I can go to Wattpad and read some toxic het story for that.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

I was reading a story, where the Mc raped a woman.
But the action was 'perfectly' justified, it was in other to save her life. The woman tried to kill herself and here I tough: " it is not so bad. It is to save her"

This is almost never ever ever the case unless we're dealing with some very convoluted writing. What story was this? I do know there was that plot point in MGS: The Phantom Pain (Or was it Ground Zeros?) where

Spoiler: squick

Skullface forces Chico to rape Paz

but that had severe consequences for both the perpetrator and the victim, and the act wasn't delivered in a way to tantalize.

Personally, I understand the idea of a forced sexual encounter being arousing, and dark stories have their place, as long as the execution is there. I'll read just about anything, but if your protag is a rapist, they shouldn't be portrayed in a positive light by the narrative unless we're dealing with 1st person stuff. If It's indeed brainless smut, you need to make it very clear that your story is meant to be taken with "porn logic" in mind a la Corruption of Champions.

You also have to be aware of your audience's reception to the use of rape for gratification, and be aware that no matter how well you treat the subject it will not only kill some people's interest in your story, It'll also damage your reputation. There was a previous thread that broached this topic that may be of interest to you, here.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

What if the person wants to die or would rather die than be raped? I don't think it can be justified in that sense.

There is such a thing as consensual nonconsent, but that requires negotiation before the session.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Ya know...

I've worked with rape cases, and there's no such thing as 'rape to save a life'.

Rape is always rooted in a desire for 'lust-fulfillment', no matter how an author tries to romanticize or twist the narrative. Like how that one house worker boy who raped the daughter of my client (a young minor, single-digit age); he claimed that she's sweet to him so he took his chance because he thought 'she loves him'.

And yes, it goes both ways. Men who rape and women who rape. They all wanted insta-gratification.

That's why a convicted rapist here gets raped in prison (mostly) the moment he's in. It's the way the prisoners avenge the victim.

 

[T.K._Paradox]

Rape fantasies are definitely not my thing, because I believe all rape is disgusting. Though I can understand it just being a fantasy for some.

But for those that actually commit the crime? They deserve to become unfertile, hobbled, and sent to work hard labor until the end of their days. So that way they can contribute something with their miserable lives.

 

[CarburetorThompson]

I’m fine with a story including rape. It can be used to great effect in the narrative if done right. What I refuse take part in is any depiction of rape that is meaningless to the overall story, or goes into excessive detail, likely for wish fulfillment. I already have a hard enough time as is empathising with asshole protagonists, if an mc raped someone that’s where I drop the story,

 

[LilTV1155]

Instant sterilization. And AmP for safety measure.

Edit: By AmP, I meant amputation as punishment if proven guilty regardless of gender and only if a secondary crime is repeated. It's a little extreme, but I have heard some vicious predators don't learn even after getting released and they could find another way to get relief in the wrong way for same reason they were jailed for.

 

[SakeVision]

Not this justified rape xianxia bullshit again. Either write me a real rape, when the prep is not justified and victim isn't enjoying it, or don't write it at all.

Pseudorape cringe.

 

[2021]

Fuck that story then

 

[Gryphon]

It depends on the execution. For instance, if I read a rape scene and the first thing that comes to my mind is "I could see Sword Art Online doing this" then your rape scene is shit. If done poorly, at best it can feel unneeded/unwarranted and at worst you're actively romanticizing it.

As someone who has a "rape" scene in their story, you have no idea how carefully I had to tread that line. I would barely count it as a scene though cause I just say it happens then get on with the aftermath. I can give some pointers on how to do those scenes respectfully though.

1. Don't tag on a rape scene if it does nothing for the story or character development.
2. Don't tag on a rape scene if any other form of trauma can fit better while doing the same job
3. For the love of god don't romanticize it. More often then not, the people that write these scenes accidentally romanticize it cause they don't know any better. For them, I'll just say get some self-awareness. For the others, please, just don't
4. If you are doing a rape scene, does it actually need to be depicted. More than half the time you can just say they are raped then go through with the aftermath. If your aftermath is powerful enough then you don't need to show the rape. All it would do is add shock value
5. Know your story. If your light hearted story has a female love interest and for 50 chapters the MC and love interest is all lovey dovey, then out of nowhere with no buildup she gets raped, then you're harming your story.
6. When the ordeal is over, don't just forget about it. In real life, such events can leave traumatic scars for years, if not for eternity. If it happens then is never brought up again, why even bother.
7. Does it in any way depict a change in tone of the story or enhance certain themes? If no, then its not needed. If you have an element of your story that doesn't in some way tie back into the main conflict then its not needed.

Hopefully this helps anyone that is uncertain whether or not that a scene such as a rape scene is right for their story. I could go over some more stuff, but I think this should be enough to get into people's heads how difficult it is to write these scenes.

 

[2021]

It depends on the execution. For instance, if I read a rape scene and the first thing that comes to my mind is "I could see Sword Art Online doing this" then your rape scene is shit. If done poorly, at best it can feel unneeded/unwarranted and at worst you're actively romanticizing it.

As someone who has a "rape" scene in their story, you have no idea how carefully I had to tread that line. I would barely count it as a scene though cause I just say it happens then get on with the aftermath. I can give some pointers on how to do those scenes respectfully though.

1. Don't tag on a rape scene if it does nothing for the story or character development.
2. Don't tag on a rape scene if any other form of trauma can fit better while doing the same job
3. For the love of god don't romanticize it. More often then not, the people that write these scenes accidentally romanticize it cause they don't know any better. For them, I'll just say get some self-awareness. For the others, please, just don't
4. If you are doing a rape scene, does it actually need to be depicted. More than half the time you can just say they are raped then go through with the aftermath. If your aftermath is powerful enough then you don't need to show the rape. All it would do is add shock value
5. Know your story. If your light hearted story has a female love interest and for 50 chapters the MC and love interest is all lovey dovey, then out of nowhere with no buildup she gets raped, then you're harming your story.
6. When the ordeal is over, don't just forget about it. In real life, such events can leave traumatic scars for years, if not for eternity. If it happens then is never brought up again, why even bother.
7. Does it in any way depict a change in tone of the story or enhance certain themes? If no, then its not needed. If you have an element of your story that doesn't in some way tie back into the main conflict then its not needed.

Hopefully this helps anyone that is uncertain whether or not that a scene such as a rape scene is right for their story. I could go over some more stuff, but I think this should be enough to get into people's heads how difficult it is to write these scenes.

No, rape bad, it’s just bad, murder better

 

[Gryphon]

Ya know...

I've worked with rape cases, and there's no such thing as 'rape to save a life'.

Rape is always rooted in a desire for 'lust-fulfillment', no matter how an author tries to romanticize or twist the narrative. Like how that one house worker boy who raped the daughter of my client (a young minor, single-digit age); he claimed that she's sweet to him so he took his chance because he thought 'she loves him'.

And yes, it goes both ways. Men who rape and women who rape. They all wanted insta-gratification.

That's why a convicted rapist here gets raped in prison (mostly) the moment he's in. It's the way the prisoners avenge the victim.

I just want to know, but its okay if you don't tell me. I just want to sit my mind at ease, but is she doing all right. I can only imagine the horror going through her mind at that point and how someone she trusted betrayed her.

 

[2021]

-
I would hate some less if they killed then someone who has done sexual assault. (Oops I wrote the wrong thing) (nvm?)

 

[Deleted member 54065]

I just want to know, but its okay if you don't tell me. I just want to sit my mind at ease, but is she doing all right. I can only imagine the horror going through her mind at that point and how someone she trusted betrayed her.

The kid's mentally-scarred; not even daring to come near her dad and other males in general, including me (for specific reasons I won't disclose). Frequent nightmares too, according to the mother. She's seeing a psychiatrist now. I remembered this case because it's one of those that gave me trauma.

 

[NobleTalon]

I was reading a story, where the Mc raped a woman.
But the action was 'perfectly' justified, it was in other to save her life. The woman tried to kill herself and here I tough: " it is not so bad. It is to save her"

MC be like:

Wanna kill yourself ?
Alright, let my holy banana enter your body so you regain the pleasure of living.

Perfectly logic.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

It depends on the execution. For instance, if I read a rape scene and the first thing that comes to my mind is "I could see Sword Art Online doing this" then your rape scene is shit. If done poorly, at best it can feel unneeded/unwarranted and at worst you're actively romanticizing it.

As someone who has a "rape" scene in their story, you have no idea how carefully I had to tread that line. I would barely count it as a scene though cause I just say it happens then get on with the aftermath. I can give some pointers on how to do those scenes respectfully though.

1. Don't tag on a rape scene if it does nothing for the story or character development.
2. Don't tag on a rape scene if any other form of trauma can fit better while doing the same job
3. For the love of god don't romanticize it. More often then not, the people that write these scenes accidentally romanticize it cause they don't know any better. For them, I'll just say get some self-awareness. For the others, please, just don't
4. If you are doing a rape scene, does it actually need to be depicted. More than half the time you can just say they are raped then go through with the aftermath. If your aftermath is powerful enough then you don't need to show the rape. All it would do is add shock value
5. Know your story. If your light hearted story has a female love interest and for 50 chapters the MC and love interest is all lovey dovey, then out of nowhere with no buildup she gets raped, then you're harming your story.
6. When the ordeal is over, don't just forget about it. In real life, such events can leave traumatic scars for years, if not for eternity. If it happens then is never brought up again, why even bother.
7. Does it in any way depict a change in tone of the story or enhance certain themes? If no, then its not needed. If you have an element of your story that doesn't in some way tie back into the main conflict then its not needed.

Hopefully this helps anyone that is uncertain whether or not that a scene such as a rape scene is right for their story. I could go over some more stuff, but I think this should be enough to get into people's heads how difficult it is to write these scenes.

As someone who--ironically--has rape in his story (in one of the volumes), I did try my best to make it an 'story element' (since I wanted to portray how my humans mistreat my beastmen), and only mentioned it in passing. Even when I'm writing the result on one of my characters, I can't help but feel sorry while I describe what her appearance is.

 

[AryaX]

Depends...

Hentai... If the mc's thing shoots powerful brainwashing aphrodisiacs or something and their victims turn into super horny, happy happy groupies who worship their thing... then it could be fine... I guess...

Realistic... I don't know if any realistic and yet good way is possible...

... Even with Hentai however... I generally prefer female protagonists, and I prefer for them to be at the receiving end of the lewd hentai activity... whether it comes from slimy hentai monsters, or abusively kinky evil aristocrats, or whatever...