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Depends, are there really gold coins?
Did you know the well is inescapable before hand?

No, there aren't.
Yes, there's a bottomless tar moat underneath.

If you knew the well was inescapable and didn't tell them, it's negligent homicide at best, but more likely premeditated murder. You knew exactly what would happen and let them die.

If you told them and they did it anyway, I think the penalty would drop sharply, but you'd still be at fault for lying about the coins and giving the person a reason to be stupid.

for the price of weeding the undesirables, I'll happily take the six month community service.

Oh, I found a better description. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder

I don't think bluffing about gold coins beneath a sure death pit is the same as suggesting a game of Russian roulette and trying for no intent to kill cause' I'm not the one pulling the trigger

It's like giggling with some mates about how they'd get a girlfriend if they fork the electrical outlet and some sad sack actually does it

Yeah, I imagine you are looking at manslaughter with 2 to 10 years of prison time depending on the judge... that would be the optimistic assessment.

Also depends on how your lawyer argues your case. But it will defo go to trial... unless you confess and make a deal.

I'm sorry I just can't see the severity of this at all. I can't for the life of me see how taking the piss about an inescapable death well would result in a genuine sentence. I guess could plead insanity for the absent accuser, but other than that I'm a legal bumfuck dumbnut.

Tbh, that's exactly what it is. That game of Russian roulette has a one in six chance of killing you. More so if you pull the the trigger a few times first. The well is a 100% chance of killing.

You might not have pulled the trigger, but they wouldn't have died if not for you. Maybe you aren't actually a depraved person, but the lawyers are damn well gonna send you to jail for 20 years.

Well I'm not playing russian roulette, and as far as I'm concerned, I brought up the gold coins in the death well as a obvious joke, and someone took it. I'd imagine if that's how the law works, there'd be so many innocents fucked over by a suicide note confessing to something the """victim""" can't be tried over.

Unless necromancy.

If the suicide note reads, "Oh, Ben told me I could get rich if I dug underneath this totally harmless and safe well!"
A similar case would be giving someone poisoned food and saying that it was delicious. Sure, you didn't force them to eat it, but you're still the bad guy. Saying it was 'just a prank, bro' doesn't change the outcome.

But that's just straight up attempted murder, cause' I never mentioned the poisonous qualities of the food. I explicitly mentioned the 100% death assurance of the well for my case. You go in there, you WILL die, even if there's gold coins to be had in there. Someone went in there with the deliberate knowledge that they will not come back out.

I did mention the 100% assured quality that the well does bring death on my first reply to Generic.Archdemon, if you've missed that.

Ah, I read that as you knew about it, but didn't tell the person.
Still... that's just a reduction in sentence.

I am not a lawyer but if I was prosecuting, the thing that cannot be ignored is that you knew there were no gold coins, yet you told someone there was, and that already shift some of the blame to you. If you truly believe there were gold coins that would be a different matter.

not even if I told someone about the gold coins in the same vein as "there's an elephant in that Matchbox lmao"?

Well shit, time to brush up some acting and heartbeat controlling skills.

It would be hard to convince the police and judges, as there is no way an elephant can be in a matchbox, but gold coins could certainly be in a death trap well.

Plus, the investigation will certainly look for intent, and will no doubt find that it was an outcome you wanted ie, for "weeding the undesirables". and it will not be manslaughter but murder.

I'd never have the intent if I never speak it out, would I? I didn't have direct correlation. I just said "dude there's like gold coins under that firepit to hell of a well". Weeding the undesirables? The guy who died did that themselves.